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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
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Demo records and world firsts
Hello!
From time to time discussions appear here about demo effect records or when some VIC-trick were first invented and by whom, and so on. Even if this is not the only thing that demos "are about", it is clearly an important aspect (historically) of the art of demomaking. Still, I find it a bit curious that it hasn't been documented in a more systematic way (until now?).
Therefore I made a (close to empty) "shell" for an article about this, and now I encourage you all to fill in the blanks and correct the mistakes:
http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_w..
Check it! Fix it!
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
I added some of the info people mentioned here, but please go there yourselves and add the stuff you know/think instead of posting it here. :) This is probably the best example of a article that would benefit from having zillions of authors, that is, an example of an article that would really use the benefits of the wiki form.
Linking to CSDb entries is considered NICE, yes.
@Ben: I don't really see a problem with filling the article with lots of info as long as it is properly labeled and sorted out and so on.
@graham: ok.. I splitted the "date" into one date for "claimed date of invention" and one date for "release".
@Oswald: stated the 50 fps thing more explicitly now...
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
Also, I added links to most of the entries there now. I couldn't quite figure out exactly which prod this refers to:
Flash/FCG: Intro
Release: 1985-10-11
(For being the first to open upper/lower border.)
Anyone?
Also quite astonishing that almost none of the CSDb pages of these demos actually mention anything at all about the "world firsts" they contain. |
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Graham
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@Frantic: Please, no "claimed dates". A lot of people claimed they did sideborder before 1001 crew. But none released it. If there is no release, it does not count. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: @Frantic: Please, no "claimed dates". A lot of people claimed they did sideborder before 1001 crew. But none released it. If there is no release, it does not count.
Yep, was the first thing that came into my mind as well. Claiming is unproven territory ;) |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
ok |
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
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@TDJ: Not only that. There's also a wrong assumption: If you say "but I did it 2 weeks before demo XY" then you ignore the fact that a demo needs to be actually coded BEFORE it is released :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: @TDJ: Not only that. There's also a wrong assumption: If you say "but I did it 2 weeks before demo XY" then you ignore the fact that a demo needs to be actually coded BEFORE it is released :)
True, true .. I remember when Compyx made a dycp over FLI somewhere in the early 90's, but when it finally was released in Not Worthy) Censor had their version already out. Still I always took in account that that one could already have been a few years old as well ofcourse ..
The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is an official release data ;)
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Rost
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 22 |
Quote: Also, I added links to most of the entries there now. I couldn't quite figure out exactly which prod this refers to:
Flash/FCG: Intro
Release: 1985-10-11
(For being the first to open upper/lower border.)
Anyone?
Also quite astonishing that almost none of the CSDb pages of these demos actually mention anything at all about the "world firsts" they contain.
i think this one is the right one...
Flash XI |
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Rost
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 22 |
Quote: Mega Jive wasn't released in 1986. If you read the scroller more closely, then that 1986 date refers to a date when the coder claims to have done a certain routine, but didn't release it until this demo. It was released around march 1987.
the game "the vikings" was released before march 1987 and contains a "10 points" fullscreen FLD coded by Thomas Larsen. Tiger Misson also, released 01.03.1987.
Tiger Mission + |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
Info added. Please edit the page directly if you got info on these matters:
http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:demo_world_records_and_w.. |
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