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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Group id #2536 : Plutonium Crackers 2001
Founded in 1982?
Really?
At least I can't remember seeing anything from them before 1987, if they were already around in 1982 how come there are no files existing from them back then? (This applies to a couple of more groups for sure.) |
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
I send a private message to Alien but he wanted me to post it here instead.
Some 15 years ago I wrote a paper in school about the c64. My info sources were mostly swedish c= mags. One thing that have been on my mind on and off since then, is the statement that the German Commodore helped crackers to get hold of games. This to help the spreading of games and in the end, the natural choice of computer would be the the c64 as everyone could get games easily. ie. a win-win solution for everyone apart from the gamedevelopers. :) |
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ALiEN-AnTiTraX
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Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 3 |
First of all hi and a big THANKYOU to all who contributed me with our old, lost Plutonium and Antitrax releases!
And those who will in the next days, Mason. ;)
Please keep on offering me everything you have from:
Plutonium Crackers 2001 (PC) (PC2001)
Antitrax 2010 (ATX) (ATX2010)
Berlin Cracking Service (BCS)
Cracking Force Berlin (CFB)
I have already started uploading Plutonium releases in here and will add the Antitrax ones soon.
@Henrik:
"German Commodore helped crackers to get hold of games"
You are speaking of a period +15 years ago (approx. 1990) and I left C64 scene in 1988.
As the C64 was already a huge seller in this time period there sure was no need for Commodore to do this.
But this instance was already well known and discussed in the early eighties too. ;)
Most people of the very small scene particular in Germany had contacts to people from Commodore, me too.
Everything was closely connected together.
Crackers have been game coders and the early suppliers have been insiders ofcourse.
But beyond the years I never! heard from my reliable environment Commodore would act this way. Mea culpa! ;)
Cracking was at supplier's risk and it was the sceners biggest aim to procect their precious suppliers.
In case a supplier lost his job, the cracking group lost the source of "raw material".
To protect your supplier it was usual to wait a certain amount of days before releasing the material he gave.
There also have been arrangements with industry not to crack until a fixed date.
The first selling days have been the most valuable for originals.
Smaller companys bought time by contributing scene with originals for free, frequently unprotected versions.
And if scene knew a company is in economic trouble, giving them time was a good contribution.
In a small, clearly arranged scene there was an unwritten law to keep your word!
Not all sceners acted this way, but it was enough if the major groups and their spreading capacities did.
I hope I could help a little.
Cheers
ALiEN Plutonium Crackers 2001 - AnTiTraX 2010
Mistrust Authority.
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
I think the article in the magazine refered to the early days of the c64, around the time it was released. But the whole thing could aswell been an urban legend. :) Computer magazines in sweden before the 90ies had quite a double standard against piracy.
Nice to hear about the real old days. Seems like a lot changed when the cracker scene went america. |
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
Just a reminder that Antitrax and Plutonium Crackers need to be divided into two seperate entries. Alien? mods? |
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baxxx
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2006
Posts: 6 |
Just a reminder that Alien still has to attend his duty and provide a statement about his 1982 BCS intro urban legend.
(Imagine the BCS intro changed years on Pouet in a mysterious way)
Same goes for his many recracks (incl. the ones for Antitrax - his own project).
About the group split. I second Rough.
Cheers,
baxxx
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Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2591 |
Done. FinallY: Antitrax |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
"Just a reminder that Alien still has to attend his duty and provide a statement about his 1982 BCS intro urban legend."
hihi. thats indeed kindof amusing that he disappeared after this shit hit the fan :o)
and thanks for splitting the groups :) |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2591 |
Guess somebody had to do it one day. ;) Fixed a lot of details along the way, like release dates for the Antitrax releases (for some reason, they used the non-German format mm-dd-yyyy, leading to a lot of confusion), and also contributed some small bits to HVSC. :) |
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