| | Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
Release id #93168 : CSDb Quantify Me
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| | Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Quote: We understand you have put a lot of work into it, but I'd really HATE to see CSDb degrading to a repository of articles about the scene. I'd rather have the scene dead, than that.
Ah yes, but then perhaps something is missing from the CSDb. If sceners like me write about the scene on the C64, like I did in Addybook, then it is ok, but if a scener writes about the scene outside the breadbox in 2010, it is not considered scene material? So in essence, if I would write 10 PRINT "CSDB RULES ARE FISHY" : RUN , save it to a disk and upload it as a Fake Demo this is considered as a genuine Scene Release, and a thorough analysis of the scene's productive history (or at least an attempt at that, let's by rightfully modest here) based on the data collected by the very authority when it comes to archiving the C64 Scene's productions is not a Scene release?
That is just semantics, I fear. I read it as the Commodore 64 SCENE database, not as the Commodore 64 scene database-OF-ANYTHING-RELEASED-ON-AN-ACTUAL-C64. My bad. I made a serious error. Of course, in this day and age, anything you have to say about the scene, as a scener, and for the scene, you must write in max 64K and in 8-bit. If you don't, it is not for us, and it should not be archived. Got it. Sorry for all the misunderstanding. I'll behave now. Anyone got a PDF2D64 converter? |
| | Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255 |
@iAN: New version, yes. But for every revision/bugfix?
It seems to me much more logical to keep only major versions (1.x, 2.x and so on) as separate releases, and then just collect the revisions/bugfixes as separate downloads within the release.
And sorry, I don't buy the "because the rules says so" as an argument against discussing possible improvements to the CSDb. Surely the rules weren't etched into stone tablets and carried down a mountainside by an old man?
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| | iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3197 |
Quote:
keep only major versions (1.x, 2.x and so on)
So, for example, if I named my new version of Unp64, 3.0 instead of 2.23, would be ok for you to have a different entry? =) They ARE different, and I HAVE released them, so they HAVE to be archived because here we archive the RELEASES of C64 scene related productions.
Between 2.22 and 2.23 there were at least 50 minor versions, because I update it daily but only on my site.
If others feel to actually release each modification they do on their demos, their problem, the entry for the new version must be done, and never replace the previous one.
Same goes with party versions and final versions of demos, they are NEVER marked with a version number, and they HAVE to be archived if they are spread (unless burned at party place of course).
About the rules, I just follow them, I'm not in my house here so I can't say "I don't like your rules and I don't want to follow them". If you don't like them, you CAN try to make them change or failing to do so, you can just leave, there are not many others possibilities. |
| | Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
Quote: Ah yes, but then perhaps something is missing from the CSDb. If sceners like me write about the scene on the C64, like I did in Addybook, then it is ok, but if a scener writes about the scene outside the breadbox in 2010, it is not considered scene material? So in essence, if I would write 10 PRINT "CSDB RULES ARE FISHY" : RUN , save it to a disk and upload it as a Fake Demo this is considered as a genuine Scene Release, and a thorough analysis of the scene's productive history (or at least an attempt at that, let's by rightfully modest here) based on the data collected by the very authority when it comes to archiving the C64 Scene's productions is not a Scene release?
That is just semantics, I fear. I read it as the Commodore 64 SCENE database, not as the Commodore 64 scene database-OF-ANYTHING-RELEASED-ON-AN-ACTUAL-C64. My bad. I made a serious error. Of course, in this day and age, anything you have to say about the scene, as a scener, and for the scene, you must write in max 64K and in 8-bit. If you don't, it is not for us, and it should not be archived. Got it. Sorry for all the misunderstanding. I'll behave now. Anyone got a PDF2D64 converter?
"not as the Commodore 64 scene database-OF-ANYTHING-RELEASED-ON-AN-ACTUAL-C64"
yes, and its not Google web archives. |
| | Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Like I said, then there is something missing from CSDb. But you are not listening, so I'll quit wasting my time on non-issues. The history of the scene is important, your actions as mods are not. |
| | Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255 |
@iAN: If you reread my previous comment, you'll see I suggested to add minor versions as separate downloads within a single release. So they will all be archived. |
| | MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Quoting Mr. Mouse I'll behave now. Anyone got a PDF2D64 converter?
There's always BASICpoint :)
http://basicpoint.jamtronix.com/ |
| | MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Quoting Perplex@iAN: If you reread my previous comment, you'll see I suggested to add minor versions as separate downloads within a single release. So they will all be archived.
Only new releases are published in the RSS feeds. Updating an existing entry is an "invisible" action so no one will see the new version being released. On CSDB a new release means a new entry, even if the changes are minor.
It would be useful if you could somehow link entries though, to point to a newer version if available. |
| | Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255 |
@MV: Good point, though I'd guess modifying the RSS feeds to include new uploads to existing releases shouldn't be too hard? |
| | chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
it wouldnt be, if that'd be what we wanted =)
also Mr.Mouse "The history of the scene is important, your actions as mods are not." - please take ATLEAST the time to find out that (until this post) no single mod was even involved into this thread. |
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