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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Oldskool vs Newskool
It seems that some people are stuck in a fantasy that every single tune coming on the C64, must:
1. have beats like Jeroen Tel
2. have melody like drax
3. have sounds like rob hubbard
4. be crazy inspiring like ben daglish
5. and that it has to have the smoothes baby ass 1988 bass filter
6. and so on...
so what is oldskool ?
1986 sounds ?
or 'playing it safe' ?
and what is newskool ?
be a copy of linus ?
It seems there are some persons who dont realize that HVSC has about every style of music on earth in it.
You can find old classical piano tunes, mostly people made them before hubbard religion came :D
then hubbard religion came, and everybody want to follow it, the most prominent child of hubby is jt.
although different style... its still a hubbyism...
then 20cc, what is this ? a jt religion..
rock/finnish gold....
We can mention so many.
There are founders of religion, and followers, those make up more than 80% of the composers.
And then there are the innovators, who take a risk, and do something completely new, and weird, or non standard.
Ed, Goto80, Mermaid... that sort of thing..
So, to the point, and ofcourse it is about my latest sid upload :D what else would it be about ? :D
Well, i can claim to call it newskool, because of the fact, it does not follow any of the religions i just mentioned.
You dear listener, should not expect every single tune, to be a melodic, progressive, manio depressive gut wrenching tune comparable to the depths of drax's mind.
You are in error.
There is more than just drax'ism :D
Specifically i would call my tune 'industrial techno', its the closest i can come to some kinda description. and as such, it is extremely well in its own class.
As a 'standard' C64 style tune, based on the religions mentioned, it is ofcourse completely off.
To the final point:
I appreciate your comments whatever they are, but when you f.ex write: there isnt much progression, or i would wish there was more melody, then dear listener, you have misunderstood it: industrial techno has no progressive melodic element :D
What is oldskool : when you follow the traditions
what is newskool : when you dont
That is all.
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DRAX
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225 |
good point, Pal ;) |
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SIDWAVE
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Posts: 2238 |
order in chaos, psychoacoustics |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
What Drax and Jeff said. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Really, degrading JT to a Hubbard follower, 20CC as a JT follower doesn't do it justice. Not at all. There may be an influence, but reducing the whole person to the 5% influence and neglecting the 95% of uniqueness is just ridiculous.
I've never seen it like this, but maybe it's because I'm NOT trying to put everything into little drawers with labels on it. Like you seem to, Jan. |
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SIDWAVE
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fixing algorithm bugs.... |
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Dane
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 423 |
It seems that some people are stuck in a fantasy that every single tune composed on the C64 is worth listening to. |
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DRAX
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 225 |
Good point you have there, Stellan... Also true what you say Stephan about of just reducing composers' uniqueness - actually that is what gives me a bad feeling sometimes - when someone says this is so JTish for instance - it's like the perspective is only on what it is similar to and not to how it is different from - thereby the uniqueness of the composer is devalued... It's almost the same as saying there is nothing special about you - you're just copy - and that doesn't feel right... I far from like all the music being composed but I always (almost always) appreciate the effort... |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
Next we'll hear Ed copies his sounds from broken code.
Does it really matter? Listen to what you like. People also learn a lot by trying to copy something similar to what they have heard from others. Sometimes things are discovered by accident.
Once people get a reputation some fans will not want the artist to change the sound. I wish I had the ability to imitate people. I fail so I have to make do with what I can. |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
It is kinda funny how people constantly equate the work of Ed with "everything that is odd", or something like that.
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
+1 |
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