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2010-03-01 11:06
SIDWAVE
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Oldskool vs Newskool

It seems that some people are stuck in a fantasy that every single tune coming on the C64, must:

1. have beats like Jeroen Tel
2. have melody like drax
3. have sounds like rob hubbard
4. be crazy inspiring like ben daglish
5. and that it has to have the smoothes baby ass 1988 bass filter
6. and so on...

so what is oldskool ?
1986 sounds ?
or 'playing it safe' ?

and what is newskool ?
be a copy of linus ?

It seems there are some persons who dont realize that HVSC has about every style of music on earth in it.

You can find old classical piano tunes, mostly people made them before hubbard religion came :D
then hubbard religion came, and everybody want to follow it, the most prominent child of hubby is jt.
although different style... its still a hubbyism...
then 20cc, what is this ? a jt religion..
rock/finnish gold....

We can mention so many.

There are founders of religion, and followers, those make up more than 80% of the composers.

And then there are the innovators, who take a risk, and do something completely new, and weird, or non standard.

Ed, Goto80, Mermaid... that sort of thing..

So, to the point, and ofcourse it is about my latest sid upload :D what else would it be about ? :D

Well, i can claim to call it newskool, because of the fact, it does not follow any of the religions i just mentioned.

You dear listener, should not expect every single tune, to be a melodic, progressive, manio depressive gut wrenching tune comparable to the depths of drax's mind.

You are in error.

There is more than just drax'ism :D

Specifically i would call my tune 'industrial techno', its the closest i can come to some kinda description. and as such, it is extremely well in its own class.

As a 'standard' C64 style tune, based on the religions mentioned, it is ofcourse completely off.

To the final point:

I appreciate your comments whatever they are, but when you f.ex write: there isnt much progression, or i would wish there was more melody, then dear listener, you have misunderstood it: industrial techno has no progressive melodic element :D

What is oldskool : when you follow the traditions
what is newskool : when you dont

That is all.
 
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2010-11-25 23:31
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034
*Musicians* talking about SID music... the scene must be dead already.

(couldn't resist ;-)
2010-11-26 02:00
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 451
i tried some sort of a backward thing too, although not completely, the beat was rather standard. to go all the way - cool idea, try that, eagerly awaiting results :)
2010-11-26 13:27
Stone

Registered: Oct 2006
Posts: 168
I had an idea for a demo part where the music AND graphics (scrollers etc) would start out moving backwards and then slowing down to a standstill and finally reversing direction. Could be really cool if everything "made sense" playing both ways. I Never got to it though..
2010-11-26 17:55
wacek

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 500
Quote: I had an idea for a demo part where the music AND graphics (scrollers etc) would start out moving backwards and then slowing down to a standstill and finally reversing direction. Could be really cool if everything "made sense" playing both ways. I Never got to it though..

See Ruecktro
2010-11-26 21:29
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 637
Did anybody mention t3h awesome rewind effect in BluREU yet?
2010-11-27 10:26
psych

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 140
Once again Linus is trying to get some attention :)

BTW nicely done Sascha :)
2010-11-27 13:04
GT
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Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 308
Two notes melody, hm, John Williams (JAWS). That is what we call a genius. A talent not to be found in C64 music, though.
2010-11-27 13:09
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269
geir... create some tune instead of being an arse all the time... tjihi.... ho ho.... he he... LOL
2010-11-27 13:12
GT
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Quote: geir... create some tune instead of being an arse all the time... tjihi.... ho ho.... he he... LOL

I'm not behaving like an arse, just being realistic, and telling the very truth. :)
2010-11-27 16:35
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254
Telling the truth is the very definition of being an arse, Geir.
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