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2010-07-02 10:12
Iapetus/Algarbi/Wood

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 71
An easy tracker

Is there other crossplatform besides goat tracker? A friend of mine wants to compose some sid tunes but he is finding goattracker too complex.

Ta.
 
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2010-07-03 16:11
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648
Mr.SID has a very good point, and personally I agree 100% with what he said.

Nonetheless, people are different. I know some people that wanted to do c64 music, but who weren't that interested in learning the details of the SID chip, and they found Cybertracker to be a reasonably comprehensible program. It is not a PC/Mac program though, but then again one can always run it in an emulator... Now Cybertracker is neither particularly popular among coders (for example because of the rastertime it consumes) nor among more experienced SID musicians (due to its many limitations), but still.. It took a few lazy fellas over the threshold at least, and that ain't bad! :)
2010-07-03 19:30
Iapetus/Algarbi/Wood

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 71
Thanks Frantic, but I think he doesn't want to use any native stuff he doesn't use it for the Speccy either which is his real target platform.

Anyway let's see what comes out of it.
2010-07-03 21:52
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
hey come on. it's not like you have to know tons of complicated stuff to make some sounds with the sid, even i can do that. (and if nothing helps, you can always steal instruments from existing tunes).

saying "i cant use this tracker because i don't know the sid" is like saying "i cant play van halen because i dont know what a guitar is" - no shit sherlok. if you want to do something, you gotta learn about it :)
2010-07-03 22:05
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
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i am not into the technical stuff about the sid, i just use the sdi editor, and i master the editor. not knowing the inner workings of the sid chip, dont prevent me from making exactly what i want.

so there goes that silly theory of yours..
2010-07-03 22:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
of course you know the technical stuff like what adsr is and how it works. and how the filter works and what waveforms you can use, and what values corrospond to all that stuff. dont be silly.
2010-07-04 01:46
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
ah yes, i think i have expressed me wrong then.. :D
2010-07-05 02:14
clonK
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Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 65
Quote: Thanks Frantic, but I think he doesn't want to use any native stuff he doesn't use it for the Speccy either which is his real target platform.

Anyway let's see what comes out of it.


If he doesn't have a c64 then take 10 seconds to load Vice on your computer and then load your c64 program into it.

Load Sid Duzz It.

Print out Jan's ref card:
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/download.php?id=103841

Check Jan's youtube vids on how to use SDI:
http://www.youtube.com/diabelez

Use SDI.

Couldn't be any simpler tbh.
2010-07-05 02:57
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
the key reference card is made by Devia :D

if you just look at the ref card, you run away screaming, because you can see all the things that you can do in SDI. so you get scared.

but if you see my videos, you see how straight forward it is, and thats why i am making them - to un-complicate things (for the noobs) :D
2010-07-05 05:41
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
hmm i cannot find the reference card release page.
the dl works, but where is the release id ?

its not under rambones, or devia, and the csdb search machine is hopeless.. :D

it should be placed on Devia's page..
2010-07-05 07:22
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401
it was never relaeased :-P ..just linked to from some forum thread, iirc.
It needs an update.. some of the Pulse/Filter prg description is either incorrect, vague og seriously misleading... but I forgot how exactly ;-)
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