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2004-07-31 10:16
Yaemon
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1541 drive and Win XP

Ok I'm going nuts here. I'm trying to acces my 1541 drive with star commander under win xp. but I can't. I have unzipped the special drivers supposedly for win xp/2000/nt and there's one driver called user port. So I've followed the manual, copied the .sys file into the system32\drivers folder. I start the executable program and plunch in the driver details they want (port range), I start the driver and it says ok. No problems here. I go to a command prompt and type in the debug \\.\giveio command and I just leave it like that. I start up the Star Commander, but it just freezes. Do I have to wait a little longer or what can I do? I thank you in advance for helping me out!
 
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2004-08-23 17:25
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Yep, and that's the pack that gives people false hope that it will work. I guess 2/100 will work, the rest not.

DOS boot, from floppy or HD, and then 64HDD or Starcommander. And a FAT/FAT32 disk to use for saving, or 1.44 floppy.


What does one need for hdd, hardware-wise? Is the xe-1541 cable enough?
2004-08-23 19:09
FRaNKy

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 23
If this helps, I've typed in this html page some time ago. It usually works on WinXP but I've found that a DOS Bootdisk is easier to use.

http://www.vendetta.org/stories/commodore-xe1541.shtml
2004-08-23 21:51
SIDWAVE
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Quote: What does one need for hdd, hardware-wise? Is the xe-1541 cable enough?

You just need EX-1541 and a C64+1541. The C64 uses the HD, with the real 1541 as driver to the HDD64 driver/program.
2004-08-24 10:18
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 902
I've once gotten this to work on my p!!! 1100 laptop, with a normal x1541 cable (not an xe or xa). But nowadays i can't seem to get it running like before anymore and i really have NO IDEA why.

I think I'm doing things absolutely the same as before, but no luck :)

the cable is okay (it works on my 486) and i know my parport of my laptop should also work with it, it did before!

so all in all it's just one big mystery ;)
2004-08-24 18:57
SIDWAVE
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The BIOS setup has to be in a PAR mode that is compatible to Xe-1541.
2004-08-24 19:27
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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Yeah, X cables require SPP mode, I think. XE cables usually work with all modes (ECP, EPP and SPP/normal).
2004-08-24 20:25
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
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Quote: Yeah, X cables require SPP mode, I think. XE cables usually work with all modes (ECP, EPP and SPP/normal).

well, I have a XE1541 and I have it on ECP & EPP. It's looong time ago, but I think SC's manual said something about that, as well...

Let me quote:

"Serial cables are the following:

The X1541 cable works on older type SPP and PS/2 parallel ports, ones that have bidirectional control lines. The parallel port on I/O controller cards for 286, 386 and 486 machines and on Hercules video cards and the integrated parallel port of most newer 486 motherboards support the X1541 cable but only certain Pentium motherboards have compatible parallel ports. On motherboards with an integrated parallel port, you have to set the mode of the parallel port to SPP because the X1541 cable won't work with EPP and ECP parallel ports. However, on many newer motherboards, there's absolutely no way to make the X1541 cable work because the control lines are not bidirectional in any mode of the parallel port. You can test your parallel port's compatibility with the X1541 cable using X1541Test. If it proves to be incompatible then you need one of the other serial cables.

The XE1541 extended cable is a substitution for the X1541 cable. Its advantage is that works in all modes of all parallel ports. Its drawbacks are that you need special diodes to build it and that only a few programs support it. Please, note that this cable has problems with motherboards that use the ALI 5 chipset and certain laptops. On these machines, use the XA1541 active cable instead."

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So Steppe is right, XE1541 works on all modes, X1541 only on SPP
2004-08-26 08:36
G-Fellow
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Quote: I haven't tested it yet but there *IS* a Star Commander Windows NT/2000/XP tweak package.

You can download it here:
http://sta.c64.org/sc_winnt.zip

R.




I have tested it. And i cant get my 1541 drive working! :( I use a XE cable. The SC works now, but he dont comunicate with my 1541, only a little bit, the red lamp is flashing but he dont read the dir. My parallelport is at 0378-037F (LPT1), I tryed to disable it and put my port adress manually in, it dont work. Than i tryed to use the parallelport via plug and play, but it also dont work. SC find the adress when i use plug and play but he dont really comunicate with it. I have read that this is impossible to get working, but for what have some peeps made this update?

Cheers,
G-Fellow/Civitas
2004-08-26 11:20
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Well, the problem is, NT4/2000/XP doesn't allow direct access to the hardware, there is just the HAL between.
Well, and such patches are mostly really wacky!

Steppe has a nice DOS bootdisk and luckily there are tools like "Partition Magic".

I only could repeat what is already said.

That everything is very hardware dependant is also clear.

2004-08-26 22:17
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Slightly o/t, but does anybody know if there's something special I need to do to get sc working with a laptop? The cable etc. works fine when I connect it to my old IBM, but I want to replace that with a pentium 133 laptop, since it takes less space.

Unfortunately I can't seem to get it to work, it just tells me that drive 8 is not present .. I tried playing around in the bios but it doesn't seem to matter ..
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