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2002-04-08 08:51
Dwangi

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130
LevelEditors

Hello, I have looked at some leveleditors for c64 (for game creating) but unfortunaly no one is real good. Can anyone recommend a good one... ??
 
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2006-09-12 18:27
Spinball

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 88
digital excess released a very good 2x2 level-editor on magic-disk back in 1994.
2006-09-12 18:57
ice00

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 54
Selfmade (similar to Cadaver one) horizzontal scrolling 4x4 editor in Java (1.5) for LSS2:

http://digilander.iol.it/ice00/download/lss_.zip

The ditor is improving as soon as I need for the LSS2 game
2006-09-12 23:33
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
I'm sure those level-editors are very swell in all ways possible, but as most level-editors, they're very case specific and not very flexible. 4X4 metatiles, differing (but very specific) colorhandling and so on. Perhaps I just have to bite the sour apple and accept that this is the fact? Can anyone remember what that 2x2 editor was called?
2006-09-13 00:05
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Yeh there was the Deelite editor. But many older editors are hardly flexible for today's standards (imo). With all the PC applications available I would imagine people would benefit more from cross-development.
2006-09-13 05:13
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Quote: I'm sure those level-editors are very swell in all ways possible, but as most level-editors, they're very case specific and not very flexible. 4X4 metatiles, differing (but very specific) colorhandling and so on. Perhaps I just have to bite the sour apple and accept that this is the fact? Can anyone remember what that 2x2 editor was called?

@2f: A PERFECT opportunity for you to start learn to code Java or whatever!!! :D I know u have TEH codewarrior skillz hidden inside you.
2006-09-13 06:01
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
What's the problem with 4x4? Or 1x1 (J.Fox editor)?

If you want to make a playable game, I think the level editor is not the main issue.
2006-09-13 06:09
Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498
if anyone does tackle this, please make it cross-platform with either java (swing) or QT/C++.

I cant run VB apps, so youre cutting me out of your market :)
2006-09-13 07:32
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Ofcourse there's nothing wrong with an editor which handles 4x4 tiles nor 1x1 tiles. It's just a matter of preference. Bigger tiles = less varible graphics in smaller levelsize. The main issue with the J.Fox one is that it is made on the C-64, and I believe that says it all.

The Level Development System by Electric Brains, Lynchbits copy of it and Delite are all nice systems. Not very flexible though, and not definitly not cross-platform.
2006-09-13 08:02
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
4x4 tiles tend to play better, because the player can recognise patterns easier, I think. (And it provides a margin of error, since a sprite is 3 chars wide)
2006-09-13 08:04
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160
A cute game probably needs 2x2 tiles though, especially if the main sprite is 1 sprite and quite plump (ie. moves in a waddling fashion and has feet use only about 2 chars of the 3)
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