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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140 |
Transparent votes?
There's been a lot of "discussion" in the one-liner box about whether voting should be transparent, i.e. you can see who voted (and their vote's value).
I feel that things should stay as they are, just the number of votes and "weighted" vote shown for each entry. That would save all the arguments "why did you vote low for me?" or "he/she is a lamer, they voted low for me/my release"
What do others think? |
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
I don't understand the need for votes at all. |
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69 |
I kind of dig the voting. I mean... I'm not going to lose sleep over it if it disappears, but it's always fun to see where productions and sceners rank amongst the others.
Truly transparent votes would probably get rid of the kind of downvoting that Optimus is talking about. I have the feeling that there is some of that going on around here, which is probably the cause of the recent oneliner uproar (why isn't Vanja on this thread, anyway?). If the votes were transparent, and you could "point the finger" (so to speak) at the person doing it, it'd probably deter them from downvoting in the first place. The downside to transparent voting is that, for some reason, people sometimes don't like voting if it's not anonymous... and, as Merman pointed out, it will cause a lot of arguments and discussions about WHY somebody voted this or that for whatever release they voted for.
Of course, there could always be, er, "translucent" voting, as it were... so that you can see WHO voted for what production, but not HOW they voted... or even that they voted above a five or below a five, or something like that. I don't know how that'd work to cut down the downvoting, but I suppose it's worth a shot. Otherwise... I don't have a specific preference for either kind.
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fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
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zdzisek
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33 |
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I agree. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Fade, you obviously got confused here: It's not about tranparent POSTINGS, it's about transparent VOTING. Doh! ;-) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
There WAS a poll - and as far as I can recall the majority voted for transparent votes, yet nothing has happened.
There has also been at least one forum topic about transparent votes before, yet nothing has happened. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Here are the previous discussions on the matter:
Downvoting
Transparant voting & editing
At least add the *option* to make *your own* votes transparent, as suggested by Steppe in one of the topics:
"I suggest that people who want to make their votes visible to others should be given the possibility, some checkbox you can switch on and off in the user preferences. Would that be hard to implement?"
And/or implement The Dark Judge's suggestion:
"You could also combine that with lack of power-voting. E.g.: if you don't want your votes to be known, you also only have the right to give rates from 3-8 or something." |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Wot!? I said that?
That's a cool idea! =) |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
BAD VOTERS EXPOSED!
Maybe a list of the voters would be a good idea, too.
You can see who actually voted but you can leave the figures unmentioned.
You can now see who voted and if there are fake-account votings. You might be spotted by that but not left with your panties down.
Transparent votes would be good to find out who did that shitty voting but imagine you have to go to some election for your local politicians/parliaments etc. and your votes will be shown together with your name. That is no good idea.
Maybe just the 1,2 and 3 voters could be named.
If you really don't like that release you can always explain your point of view to others then. But actually I don't see any point in voting a 1 for really cool demos like deus ex etc.
always keep in mind that all roads lead to rome
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Honest and fair voting... yeah sure. Here's the thing. Recently I've got known about a downvoter of mine and when I asked really kindly about his reasons of downvoting my faakkin person he said it was by mistake (yeah sure) and he changed the 1 to 10. Get the point eh.
What about making only those votes transparent that are lower than f. e. 3 and higher than 8. Voila, everyone happy. Or even better: NOT ALLOWING to vote for your nick. Sometimes I have a crazy feeling, I rather wouldn't be present on "top"-lists at all.
My only uno was checked under a handle of a cable-guy, and in fact I'm proud of that downvote.
See what Mermaid wrote, hello, read carefully:
THE ABSOLUTE MAJORITY VOTED *YES* FOR TRANSPARENT VOTES
Doesn't that ring a bell or something? We're not electing a president of scene, but judging others and their productions. |
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