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2005-02-08 23:11
Death Demon
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Careful with your email addresses

I've been poking around the nostalgia sites recently popping my email address up hoping to get in touch with old friends from the scene. Instead, old jealousy has found a way of poking it's ugly head out. I can't believe that jealousy like this still exists after, what, 20 years now?

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From: lkjlkjljk pablo [lkjlkjljkpablo_797@hotmail.com]
raster boy lives again.... total lack of imagination raster boiiiiiiiiii


Only one person who ever refered to me as that. In fact, he has a web page up right now that refers to me as that. Man, can't believe some people can't let go. Hmm, actually it looks like he's updated it in the last few days. Luckily, Google still has it around. If you're interested, do a google search for +"wanderer" +"the survivors" +"raster boy"

Wanderer Commodore 64 c64 NTSC intro demo fbr pe the survivors ...
... I ripped anything after my beginning months in The Survivors. ... a member of FBR who
I call raster boy (DxxxxDxxxx ... did you change your name from Satan to Wanderer? ...
www.ontarioghosttowns.com/c64/c64.html - 84k - Cached - Similar pages

In any event, as I stated, please be careful. It appears that some people out there are still bent out of shape over scene related issues.
 
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2005-02-09 23:55
Death Demon
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Arrogance : Heh, yeah, I can imagine the flamewars get fun. But back in the day, things used to go to a whole new level. People had credit cards taken, phones disconnected, and a couple people even got turned in for phreaking. Things can get serious.
2005-02-10 00:37
The Arrogance

Registered: May 2004
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True, things can get serious.. and there you got me, just because i did not at all take anything you said above into consideration. Why ?! Easy as that, coz' all you said was never part of the european-scene-behaviour. Of coz' there also were a few Traitors and Backstabbers, but they were the minority and usually didn't get away with it anyway. You guys really had a strange scene in the U.S., a scene where Brothers in Piracy were dealing with eachother in such a poor way. Probably not only that way, but apparently neverthless very regularly.
2005-02-10 01:15
Death Demon
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Yup, the American scene was a bit odd that way. You europeans had your wars too, but it pretty much kept itself to scroll text. My group had our two chief importers turned in. At least, we're pretty sure they got turned in. We thought we knew who did it too, but I don't really remember. I never really did anything that would get me in trouble though. Coder and all. So no worries. But that vindictiveness is always in the back of my mind. I did get into a situation where someone prank called me pretty much 24/7. Made my home phone unusable. That was a joy.
2005-02-10 09:27
Crossfire
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Oh yeah, constant daily prank calls...a whole lot of fun, had that done to me a few times (meaning, MANY times by a few people...)...no need to start the hassle up again in there, though - since the guilty ones are also present! (They, HOWEVER, grew up and I'm on a friendly basis with them now, haha)
2005-02-10 09:47
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
I remember when I just started out in the scene, releasing my first little demos etcetera .. I got a call by some guy from Finland who saw my work and was pretty excited about it, and I was very proud to get that call. Only later it turned out that it wasn't a foreigner but a local dude who was set it up it by the guys in WWE (I wasn't a member yet) :(

The irony though is that that guy was a member of TLS, a much more famous group than the group he used for his prank ;Z
2005-02-10 10:33
H.O
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I had a few prank calls, but not that many. One of them are mentioned in one of my scroll texts (someone pretending to be from Fairlight, which bugged me quite a bit since I always held Fairlight and Triad in high regard) but none to bad.

I've had worse calls because of my political activities -- and because my name similarity to someone with the opposite political views of mine.

In any way, those kind of phonecalls are never fun but there are different shades of grey.

What I could never understand is people turning other people on the scene in to authorities.
2005-02-10 18:28
The Arrogance

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 36
Anyone outthere who never made a prank-call himself ?!
Well, this was part of the scene, making fun out of people you didn't like.. and compared to the customs in the U.S., a prank-call is the most harmless of all those evil things people could have done to you.
2005-02-10 19:29
Death Demon
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I never made any prank calls or did anything massively underhanded. I did make a couple of war demos though. One was aimed at the dude who turned in Ninja/Infernal. It was a big animation. Kinda funny. The other was a full fledged videogame along the lines of Hogan's Alley. Neither was released under my name though. Funny thing is that the Hogan's Alley game was "cracked" by some group and released. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2005-02-10 20:40
H.O
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No prank calls from my side. Cant even recall doing any such thing as a small kid, before my years in the scene.

Closest thing I did was writing some less then friendly scroll texts.
2005-02-10 21:19
Wanderer
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I had two calls. One from Death Demon, who claimed I had, "bad mouthed him". Another was from the group INC. The three hour time difference did not help, especially as I was sleeping for one of the calls.

I don't know why it was more popular in the USA than Europe, I guess the USA scene was more competetive with groups struggling to grab contacts.

I've been on conference calls where people called up other groups and had arguments. I remember Public Enemy vs another group. I stayed quiet the entire call as I didn't see much point in making, "your momma..." jokes. As a programmer I had no beefs with another import group. Coding was fun for me, the importers could argue over who released what first and who stole whose contacts.

Sometimes people said things about me in their scrollers, or on BBS's but it goes with the territory. For every 9 people who tell you they love your work, there will always be that 1 who doesn't.

In any event, I never prank called anyone. When you take the scene and let it flow into your personal life and call someone at their home, that's going too far, in my opinion.
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