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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Graphic Charts
Heythere,
i was just looking at the current top gfx artist rankings here and i had the urge to just bitch about some of the best gfx artists on the c64 being ranked way to low.
Dont get me wrong, there are many talented people around today.
But artists of the caliber of a Paul Docherty or Bob Stevenson would mop the floor with the majority of the people in the top 10 in any of the various gfx subsections.
And by the way, wtf is it with full screen gfx artists and normal gfx artist i mean give me a break its all the same to me.
You may disagree, thats fine. Bite my shiny metal ass.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Yeah, it's a never ending cold war: Do we vote a 10 for demos that were a 10 "back then" but look a little dated, or do we compare them to today's productions? Personally I go with the latter, just as I do with movies or music.
The latter, ofcourse. The best demos are the ones that stood the test of time, so to speak.
As for the graphician thing: 'fullscreen' is a bit much but I think there's for example a difference between logo graphicians and those doing pretty pictures. Not everybody is able doing both equally well ..
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Laxity
Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459 |
Quote: Yeah, it's a never ending cold war: Do we vote a 10 for demos that were a 10 "back then" but look a little dated, or do we compare them to today's productions? Personally I go with the latter, just as I do with movies or music.
See, the great thing about is that we DON'T conform, otherwise the charts would reflect nothing. That makes sence too, since we don't judge by the same preferences anyway. Some people like techno, others (however few) like polka, some of the creative people are mainstreamers others aren't. The lovely dynamics of this place (and the real world too, I've been told.. never been there!)
I would however like if there'd be added a "fullscreen musician" category (that multi speed hokus pokus deserves a category of its own!). :) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
The real world is overrated. I know: I've seen it on tv, on something called the 'Jerry Springer' show. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
oh yes, someone please fullfill the job called "full screen musician", and I will be wowed :) |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
Can we also have "offscreen graphician"? |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting radiantxYeah, it's a never ending cold war: Do we vote a 10 for demos that were a 10 "back then" but look a little dated, or do we compare them to today's productions? Personally I go with the latter, just as I do with movies or music.
Well, in that case i would say for music and movies the older ones beat the newer ones 10 to 1 in every case. There's just no Jim Morrison or Stanley Kubrick around these days anymore.
Getting back onto the subject, you just cant compare anyone these days who is doing pixels in some of them shiny new gfx modes and compare them to any of the old masters, who were bound to strictly traditional koala format.
And i prefer a skillfully painted koala format picture over anything else, on any day of the week.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Can we also have "offscreen graphician"?
Offbeat I can imagine. |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
offscreen-graphicians are filed under (Disk) Cover Designer.
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206 |
Quote: Quoting radiantxYeah, it's a never ending cold war: Do we vote a 10 for demos that were a 10 "back then" but look a little dated, or do we compare them to today's productions? Personally I go with the latter, just as I do with movies or music.
Well, in that case i would say for music and movies the older ones beat the newer ones 10 to 1 in every case. There's just no Jim Morrison or Stanley Kubrick around these days anymore.
Getting back onto the subject, you just cant compare anyone these days who is doing pixels in some of them shiny new gfx modes and compare them to any of the old masters, who were bound to strictly traditional koala format.
And i prefer a skillfully painted koala format picture over anything else, on any day of the week.
I agree it's not fair to compare FLI modes to graphics done using a plain old multicolour bitmap, however, it's not like everyone only ever uses these new modes. There's been pictures in recent times from the likes of Sander, Mirage, Bizzmo, Mermaid, Joe, Ptoing etc that don't use any FLI type modes and IMO blow away all but the very best pictures from the Bob, Dokk era. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting deev There's been pictures in recent times from the likes of Sander, Mirage, Bizzmo, Mermaid, Joe, Ptoing etc that don't use any FLI type modes and IMO blow away all but the very best pictures from the Bob, Dokk era.
While i agree that some of the above mentioned are without a doubt among the best pixel artists around i totally don't see dokk, bob stevenson, hugh riley or robin levy being blown away by anyone. Equally matched maybe, but not blown away.
But maybe im just biased, i grew up with those graphics.
Also the tools that are available today make it a lot more convenient to make good looking pictures than what was available in the 80's.
I think there's rarely anyone using the same setup as the guys back in the old days did. And for those who do, i say respect.
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