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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
What's stopping someone from creating a fake account for downvoting?
I just don't get why people are allowed to vote anonymously...
What's stopping me then, from making a new fake account just
for down (or up)-voting someone?
I think this happened to Offence's Trick and Treat. Somebody just
made a fake account and voted 1 and 2. And it just fell from top 10 to
below 70.
I have never seen a downvoter voting with a handle, they're all anonymous...
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
Funnily, there are no such things as 'downvotes'.
In total I think annonymous voting is much rather used for 'upvoting' in some cases. If someone votes '1' its usually because he or she doesnt like that particular release very much - for whatever reason. Valid. Stupid but valid. |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
Quote: Because the system is clearly getting exploited. And I think if people are afraid to stand behind their vote with their alias then maybe they shouldn't vote. Or their vote should count less. :)
Sorry, but afaik anonymous voting is pretty much standard on every competition or election or whatever else contains some sort of voting in real life. I don't get why you make up conspiracy theories ("afraid to stand behind their vote"), just because people (like me) decide to choose an option they're used to all of their life.
So this decision makes every one of us (funny enough: the majority of voters on CSDb) suspicous in your eyes?!? |
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The Overkiller
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342 |
Quoting enthusiFunnily, there are no such things as 'downvotes'.
In total I think annonymous voting is much rather used for 'upvoting' in some cases. If someone votes '1' its usually because he or she doesnt like that particular release very much - for whatever reason. Valid. Stupid but valid.
Hmmmm no .... often it's used for simply retaliation against a person or a group. |
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Bitbreaker
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 504 |
In a lot of releases there's lot of work, and i know, that when you do your release with such a passion, that you start to tend to overrate your own production. That said, we have to sometimes accept that our impression doesn't meet the public opinion, or even the opinion of some that would waste their time with excessive downvoting.
In the end I FUCKING DON'T CARE. All that counts is, if _I_ can have a nice wank on my brilliant productions, and while on that, i really don't care about others :-P |
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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
Quoting spider/MYDSorry, but afaik anonymous voting is pretty much standard on every competition or election or whatever else contains some sort of voting in real life. I don't get why you make up conspiracy theories ("afraid to stand behind their vote"), just because people (like me) decide to choose an option they're used to all of their life.
So this decision makes every one of us (funny enough: the majority of voters on CSDb) suspicous in your eyes?!?
Yes, all CSDb-users are suspicious in my eyes. :)
No, noone is suspicious. I'm simply trying to say that the current system is being abused.
No, I don't have conspiracy theories, I'm simply giving you hard evidence of how it is being abused.
And well, I think it's a stretch to compare this to larger voting systems such as a country's election. This is a small scene, and we're quite anonymous already. Why shouldn't we stand behind our votes with our aliases?
Actually, to be honest, I just read a point that have made me think a bit more about my point of view: Retaliation - Someone gives me a low score and that makes me want to give him/her a low score too. This could be a case with an open voting system. |
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grasstust
Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43 |
Quoting BitbreakerIn a lot of releases there's lot of work, and i know, that when you do your release with such a passion, that you start to tend to overrate your own production. That said, we have to sometimes accept that our impression doesn't meet the public opinion, or even the opinion of some that would waste their time with excessive downvoting.
In the end I FUCKING DON'T CARE. All that counts is, if _I_ can have a nice wank on my brilliant productions, and while on that, i really don't care about others :-P
:) I like the way you put that. I dunno, I'd like at least a few reactions, good or bad. I'm not too fond of wanking to my own productions. If absolutely noone cares, I think it would be a bit sad.
Damn... I got this childish urge to paint someone wanking to their own demo now... Maybe it could be a credits part for a bigger demo. When you present the parts with an icon and credits, you have this little character in the corner wanking to each part. Ofcourse, he would wear a "BITBREAKER" t-shirt! ;) |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
You got me wrong. I didn't want to *compare* voting here to elections. I wanted to say, that *everywhere else* (and also elections) I'm used to vote anonymously (i.e. parties). So I also do it here - just out of habit. And I still see no problem with that. So yeah, maybe every now and then some dumbass expresses his lack of mental balance with voting low for some 1337 prod. The little influence that this has on the overall score is imho no argument to change a system that works for the majority. |
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Sasq
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 156 |
Downvoting fills a purpose.
It balances out the upvoting of certain releases. Like when some old and nostalgic inducing production get voted all 10s by old and nostalgic sceners, responsible downvoters make sure it gets bumped off the top 3 list :)
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647 |
Downvoters are those who have realized that extreme voting counts more than "nuanced" voting. Can't see what there is to object to that? :) |
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
You know what would help *muhaha*, if my (tm) system of ranking would be used ;-)
There must be a million threads on this. But each user could simply have a personal TOP5/10 of each category which is then read every 24h or so for the rankings => All problems gone and we really dont need bottom100 releases and we dont even need a list of 'average'. Im ok if none of my demos shows up in more than one *g* TOP5 list ;-) |
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