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Perff
Administrator
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Dedicated server for CSDb -> ads
Ok. I guess the secret is now out. What some of you might have seen was just a little experiment. It is not permanent in any way - yet.
Ok. Here goes: (a long text coming up.)
CSDb have up untill now been hosted for free at the place I used to work - a small hosting company. However the machine CSDb has, and currently is running on, is a test server with no backup or anything, a quite slow internet connection, and a lot of other stuff hosted on it too. Besides that I have personally no control over the machine. If it fails, or the people who owns it desides to throw it out, I can do nothing. :(
For some time now I have wanted a REAL dedicated server for CSDb which was mine to control 100%. This would give a lot of advantages which I will not list here, but I guess you can imagine. :)
I now got an opportunity to get this!
This server will be redundant, backups will be taken and everything. Also the bandwidth will be much higher resulting in much more pleasent feeling surfing on CSDb.
However, this is of course not free. I also feel like I owe the little hosting company something for hosting this site for more than 4 years now.
The bottom line is that we need some money to pay for this, and here I got an idea, which I have seen on other sites like slayradio.org, to put up some discreete ads which will ONLY be displayed for people who are not logged in. This means that all of you who are reading this now, will never see these ads (except if you hit the "log out"). Only random surfers will see these ads, which I will not let dominate the site.
The ads will be text only, and using the same colors as the rest of CSDb.
So far this idea is still in it's early stages, but before I can go all the way, I need to check if this will pay off at all, so in the near future I will put the add's online for a few days up to a week, to get an idea of how much it would bring in. Remeber that if you are logged in there will be NO ads! After that I will take the next step.
You are welcome to check the ads out, and give your oppinion about them, and perhaps come up with some ideas.
I will point out that these ads it not a way for me to try to earn a lot of $. It is only ment to pay for the hosting. If it should turn out that it would bring in a lot more than needed, we will think of a good way to spend the rest of it. :) But that will be sometime into the future.
So, any comments?
PS. It is true that people have been offering free hosting to me for CSDb, but I must admit, that I would prefer to have it under my control still. ;) Hope I don't offend anyone by saying this.
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: One reason I'm content to take down my webpage is because I know CSDB is here. I no longer have to worry about having a "one source" for all of my ex-group's releases.
I know that CSDB will be up, and hope it will be up for years to come.
I'd gladly send in a donation now and again if the option was there. As a webmaster, I know that the costs can add up quickly.
Pave the way for a donation system and see who takes the detour :)
Cautionary note:
Adsense is also open to abuse, if one person is too excitable and clicks every single ad they see, it could result in termination of the service. One person gets upset at CSDB, clicks banners for an hour, Google can, and will, terminate. Donations on the other hand, you can't abuse.
Considering the abuse, it seems to me that Google adsense is registering only one click/IP/ad. And usually the ads don't vary so much, f.e. on a site about movies, the same 10-15 ads about movies show up over and over. I'm not absolutely sure about this, but when I try to click on my ads from the same IP address many times, only one click gets registered. |
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Wanderer
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478 |
The ads depend on the content of the site. I'd say 15 ad rotations sounds about right. Now how many possible advertisers could there be for Commodore related sales?
Google allows multiple clicks from the same IP, and they are registered as such. Now, they might make an allowance from one IP doing all of the clicking. In some cases they do, in other cases they presume the webmaster is behind it and terminate the program.
It's typical Google. Everything is behind a thick haze, you have no idea how it works, or if you're making a decent commision.
Three clicks per day may bring you 3 cents, on others days 3 clicks may bring you $1.50. Did I mention it's typical Google? :)
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
wanderer, is my memory getting rusty, or you have really started a topic a ~month ago, about getting finally out your smelly disgusting ass out of here ?
you couldnt hold out more longer ? This is so pathetic. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
you cant even hold the promises given to yourself heh ? |
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
funny, I was just thinking 'didnt he leave'?
sad :)
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SECRET MAN
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 336 |
Quote: Considering the abuse, it seems to me that Google adsense is registering only one click/IP/ad. And usually the ads don't vary so much, f.e. on a site about movies, the same 10-15 ads about movies show up over and over. I'm not absolutely sure about this, but when I try to click on my ads from the same IP address many times, only one click gets registered.
Then i would take an IP changer.You will always have an other IP if you take the IP changer from Steganos.
Look here:
http://www.steganos.de/ |
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Wanderer
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478 |
It's not so much a matter of whose IP is used, it's a matter that it can be done and thus jeopardize any accumulated earnings. Steganos is just one of a zillion such services.
Perff can try the banner ads and see how they work, but I think a donation system would be best.
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
I dont really understand why nobody made an offer to host csdb on a faster server... I mean, theres gotta be plenty ppl here that can offer that.
but alas, if performance will be improved, we'll just have to live with the ads.
or hey, do like I do, host at home ;) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Nothing hazy about the way Google works, in fact they have quite clear documentation on it. The only bad thing is that they tend to change that way from time to time ;) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Locking this topic would be a nice idea now when everything was announced and now it's moving a bit offtopic. There can alwasy be other topic for this when it's actual.
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