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2023-12-22 18:03
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 496
Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal

Dear fellow sceners,

This is an attempt to get more understanding among, and for, C64 demoscene pixel artists. It’s not written to limit anyone, but a prayer for more transparency.

Read the document here: ->Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal<-

We tried to give define and value different processes. Which is a result of discussion, where we saw mutual grounds and felt the need to write these down.
We will update the document periodically, when enough input has been gathered and sorted out.

We’d really love to hear your thoughts on the subjects in the document.
Please post them in this thread.

(Personally I will not always fully comply to these guidelines myself, but I will continue to be transparant about it. However, I do agree with the values communicated in this document.)
 
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2023-12-27 07:54
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Here we are, groups of pixel artists that despise eachother. Oh well, nothing changed, only that it's out in the open now. Maybe that's a good thing after all.
2023-12-27 09:28
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 83
Nope I still love you all. Can't be the only one, surely?

Peace.
2023-12-27 20:05
Nim

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 27
Quoting Hein
Here we are, groups of pixel artists that despise eachother. Oh well, nothing changed, only that it's out in the open now. Maybe that's a good thing after all.

Oh come now, I'm sure we can separate the topic from the person? Nothing wrong with a little passion 😉
2023-12-27 20:56
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Quoting Nim
Quoting Hein
Here we are, groups of pixel artists that despise eachother. Oh well, nothing changed, only that it's out in the open now. Maybe that's a good thing after all.

Oh come now, I'm sure we can separate the topic from the person? Nothing wrong with a little passion 😉


What was the topic again? ;)
2023-12-27 22:37
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
@Hein

Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal

Dear fellow sceners,

This is an attempt to get more understanding among, and for, C64 demoscene pixel artists. It’s not written to limit anyone, but a prayer for more transparency.

Read the document here: ->Graphics on C64 demoscene: Guide of Ethics – a Proposal<-

We tried to give define and value different processes. Which is a result of discussion, where we saw mutual grounds and felt the need to write these down.
We will update the document periodically, when enough input has been gathered and sorted out.

We’d really love to hear your thoughts on the subjects in the document.
Please post them in this thread.

(Personally I will not always fully comply to these guidelines myself, but I will continue to be transparant about it. However, I do agree with the values communicated in this document.)

Sander/Focus
2023-12-28 02:56
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680
Quote: @Joe: why not form a gfx group and set new standards? Like MSL for gfx. The scene needs and loves em all, pros, amateurs and even lamers.

Amateur is supposed to be a positive word btw.


Coders need these groups too… musicians have them, graphicians -have- had them in the part (DiArt etc I believe?)… coders are just underrepresented :p .. coders should be in 10 different groups at the same time too :p

Anyway, sorry, I took this careering semi truck of a thread off course … back to the chaos of whatever the current topic was.
2023-12-29 10:06
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 337
There is one simple fact we need to face:

We are all getting obsolete quickly.

No amount of petitions will change that. So have fun while you still can.
2023-12-29 15:26
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Quote: There is one simple fact we need to face:

We are all getting obsolete quickly.

No amount of petitions will change that. So have fun while you still can.


Although technology and art forms may change over time, certain pieces of art will continue to be valued and remembered. This could be due to their unique expression, emotional impact, historical significance, or a combination of these factors. Even as artists and the tools they use become obsolete, their art can live on and maintain its relevance and value to future generations.
2023-12-29 16:26
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 452
Perhaps there should be a general discussion thread about this new hammer we've got to play with.
2023-12-29 23:52
arch0N

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 12
Technology is simply a tool; it needs someone to operate it. AI won’t replace you, but someone who knows how to use it might.

I respect the desire to remain true to pixel art, but just as photography didn’t eliminate the artist, AI is here to stay and will continue to improve. If you avoid using AI, photo references, stock images, or anything that comes to mind, you might be making your work more difficult. I’m not suggesting that simply entering a prompt into Midjourney is enough - actually, the more detailed you are with your prompt, the more the results might stray from what you envisioned. It’s just a tool, after all.

Rob Hubbard’s statement “Mutate or Die” from his speech at 10:25 comes to mind:

https://youtu.be/rSDz7x5UVIc?si=W-YE_tJHkJzpTKtd.
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