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2008-01-10 11:56
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Why is editing/deleting old comments enabled?

Noticed a few times when deletion/editing of old comments resulted quite funny/annoying/baffling comment-threads.
Is there a special reason for this being enabled?
 
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2008-01-11 15:39
wreg
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 679
"Please put only comments on the actual release here. All further discussion belongs into the forum, and will be removed if posted here!"

those who cannot read, should perhaps not add comments!

if anyone is misusing it by replying and the it looks weird because the source is edited or deleted, it's their own fault

discussions belongs to the forum, you can quote your favourite comment and start a thread there if there is need for discussion... i'll always vote for a stricter censorship to actually delete all kind of discussions in the comments...



what you suggest might be a good approach though

see www.heise.de ( any older news entry, then 'Kommentare lesen') for another kind of tree-style discussion.
why does csdb not have this? is there some strange alien technology required for this?! ;)

i think we can satisfy most users, those pro-locking and those contra-locking:

1. we should leave comments editable, thats the way it is wanted, that's the way we are used to

2. perff could add a 'quote' button or 'start a discussion'-link besides every comment, there you can actually start a discussion on any comment, which will of course be created in the forum, where it belongs!

tree-style would be nice, so we have a tree-root as the entry and all discussions under there.

tree style discussion / tree structure forum
2008-01-11 20:35
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
Quote:
i'll always vote for a stricter censorship to actually delete all kind of discussions in the comments...


a moderator that gets a line like that out of his keyboard should receive a life-long ban on moderating anything.

start by moderating your own keyboard first, please.
2008-01-12 08:41
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
burglar, loose moderation can get funny when rules are applied to only some persons :)
2008-01-12 13:46
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Oswald you are a born troublemaker and a dirty outlaw! No wonder you constanly get into trouble with the moderators, unlike the rest of us. :D
2008-01-12 14:25
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
Quote: burglar, loose moderation can get funny when rules are applied to only some persons :)

ozzy, you're not helping your point of view with adding trollthreads here... you'll only piss off the censors...

anyway, ontopic question for the moderators: why is it so bad that some releasespecific discussions take place in the comments?
2008-01-12 14:31
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
if those discussions were actually release specific, then it'd be ok i guess :) its just that they usually quickly spin off into something completely offtopic.

(however, back to the original question ... =P)
2008-01-12 14:32
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
Quote: if those discussions were actually release specific, then it'd be ok i guess :) its just that they usually quickly spin off into something completely offtopic.

(however, back to the original question ... =P)


can you give a recent example where it all went wrong?
2008-01-12 14:35
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942
There's also the method of allowing people to edit/delete their comments as long as they are logged in and remove the option when they log out. This is ofcourse only usefull if I get logged out automatically when I close the session, which I prefer as well.
2008-01-12 14:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
the windows vs linux crap in the project one entry is a good example (although a good bunch of "bad" comments have been removed there already, so you probably cant really see all the mess). also the attacks on vanja in one of her recent pictures.

however, IMHO the biggest problem is that "letting users delete/edit previous comments" and "general discussing in comments as if it'd be a forum thread" don't go together well. or at all :) it'd be much less of a mess when it'd be a regular thread.
2008-01-12 14:46
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942
When making a comment in real life, you can't edit it afterwards either. What's said, is said. Only by making an additional comment you can try to undo the damage. (if you're not a psycho boy that wants to do damage, that is)
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