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2007-09-20 09:35
chatGPZ

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Release id #53316 : Ikari & Talent Intro

mmmh its somehow getting out of hand. intros that werent released like this (single file, without a crack attached) shouldn't get a seperate entry.
 
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2007-09-20 12:40
chatGPZ

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Now we have uploads of crackintros. What's next? Pictures ripped from demos?


thats the point. such kind of things ideally go into their own database, and are then crosslinked with each other.

thats btw exactly the reason why sids from hvsc get different entries than other stuff.

and oh yes, kudos for what rough is doing.
2007-09-20 13:11
Rough
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good point there, but there are differences betweens .sid files and intros

a) first of all .sid files are originally Amiga/PC related, not to be used on 64

b) .sid files are ripped, the downloads of the intro entries are not, they are the original cracks

c) sid tunes have their proper credits in every release including links to HVSC to listen to them, intros are not credited at all, only possibility: within a crack which looks weird and also gets following problem: when an intro is e.g. 50 times used, a 100% database would credit its producers a 50 times, not very senseful.

The way I do it right now also gives some problems, e.g. I enter as release data the date of the crack it was first used on (at least to my current knowledge...) and furthermore I add sid tunes which were used in that intro later which gives them when credited a wrong date.

Currently it's a good solution and I like it. When there is a better one my entries can be removed every time, that won't be a problem.
2007-09-20 13:20
chatGPZ

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When there is a better one my entries can be removed every time, that won't be a problem.


no please. removing them will be work, which is unnecessary. just wait until we have a decent solution.

(chances are, those entries will be deleted even before we have a proper solution. just like pointless gfx entries with pictures ripped from games have been removed. actually we are preparing a foundation of rules atm to establish exactly that)
2007-09-20 13:22
Rough
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Who is 'We'?

and.. a 'new solution' can be in centuries?!
2007-09-20 13:28
Rough
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what pops up in that particular problem to me is also that I strongly support a checker flag if code/gfx/music etc. is originally done for the entry or ripped (like music and fonts)
2007-09-20 13:34
Scout

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Quote: what pops up in that particular problem to me is also that I strongly support a checker flag if code/gfx/music etc. is originally done for the entry or ripped (like music and fonts)

What also might be an elegant solution is the possibility to add separate crackintro information in a crack-entry.

*brainstorming*
2007-09-20 13:36
chatGPZ

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Who is 'We'?


the site admins/mods/nazis/assclowns (pick your favourite) :=)

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and.. a 'new solution' can be in centuries?!


hopefully not :)

Quote:

what pops up in that particular problem to me is also that I strongly support a checker flag if code/gfx/music etc. is originally done for the entry or ripped (like music and fonts)


yes :)

maybe we should put a rough "todo" list online so everyone can see what is planned, and what has priority (like atm, perff is doing some tools for us so we can maintain things like merging entries better).
2007-09-20 13:53
Rough
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of course the admins/mods

but who exactly are these people?

Perff, you, Cyberbrain, Zyron, Violator, who else?
2007-09-20 13:59
chatGPZ

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Site admins:
Perff, Cyberbrain, KBS

Site moderators:
CreaMD, Zyron, Trazan, Wreg, Dishy, The Communist, Groepaz

(however, cyberbrain, kbs and dishy are absent for quite a while...)
2007-09-20 14:02
Rough
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off-topic: in rare moments it is possible to upload right now, so if you want your new demo out, just try several times in a row
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