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2003-04-03 16:24
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
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DMC 4 or DMC 5?

Here's a discussion topic. Which DMC version tunes do you prefer, DMC V4.0 or DMC V5.0 if so then why.

I like DMC V5.0 myself, you can make even better enhanced effects, but I seem to be more comfortable using DMC V4.0, because of my original style of music, which I compose. DMC V4.0 is more simpler compared to DMC V5.0, and it is more user-friendly to play around with.

DMC V5.0 however is better. Although it looks like dogshit, the music editor allows you to do professional music. I noticed that talented musicians had their own styles using that particular music editor.
 
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2003-08-04 19:55
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Ok, sowwy. ;)

No problem ;)
2003-08-14 08:04
Orcan
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Quote: Here's a discussion topic. Which DMC version tunes do you prefer, DMC V4.0 or DMC V5.0 if so then why.

I like DMC V5.0 myself, you can make even better enhanced effects, but I seem to be more comfortable using DMC V4.0, because of my original style of music, which I compose. DMC V4.0 is more simpler compared to DMC V5.0, and it is more user-friendly to play around with.

DMC V5.0 however is better. Although it looks like dogshit, the music editor allows you to do professional music. I noticed that talented musicians had their own styles using that particular music editor.


HI Orcan here, I have one question to DMC 5.0 editor. I need know some method for better quality of reading sounds if I compose in speed 0. CreamD has some empiric method like poke 4039,44. Yes, it is better little, but I know that it could be more. Can somebody answer? Thanx
2003-08-14 19:04
Finn

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 15
I use DMC 4 , I need to be able to use filters on all 3 tracks . I think i noticed that this is not possible in dmc5 ,, if so i would never ever give dmc5 a try. even knowing it has some good options..
I am not realy happy with dmc4 too,
befor i wil try and change editors i try and find out if it´s sort of what i am looking for.,, with funktions like filter cutoff overrule in paterns(wich dmc4 has not:(. ) and hopefuly it should show the paterns like a tracker so you could see what you are making :D .. and it must suport multi speed kind of things too and must "not only" be meant for making music to use in other programs, .. . It needs to have a good interface and .erm .... blablabla...




2003-08-15 18:52
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
It has been a very long time since I last done a DMC V5.0 album, so I think I'll work on DMC V5.0 album #3 ;) Something for you techno buffs to look forward to eh?
2003-08-16 02:30
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468
Finn:So you want something that isn't DMC? There would easily be over 100 different music editors without counting subversions/variations of the same editor (How many versions of DMC 4 are there?). There are trackers. DMC is not one of them.
2003-08-16 17:17
St0fF

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 40
Orcan:
The problem lies in the hard restart.
If speed is 0 (which is not recommended) the player sometimes screws up in detecting that there should be a hardrestart because you gave it too little time (like Speed=0, DUR=1). if you compose in speed = 0 then you're supposed not to use the lowest duration at all.

hope this helped for you ...

now on with the topic:
DMC 4 is great for a start, but when you get to know the SID better you should switch to DMC 5.
Upgrades in my eyes are: more instrument flexibility, easier to understand from the tables, what the SID does.
Downgrades: only voice 3 filterable

actually, this Downgrade and a lot of new ideas made me create acidtracker. DMC-5-guys might easily get used to it.
ATC uses enhanced Tables, mixes filters with start-priorities, offers different hard-restarts, better vibrato, adjustable tablespeeds, and in-effect-resonance changing with filters.

greez, St0fF
2003-08-16 18:33
Finn

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 15
Hello Stryyker.

O yes,.
I have tested lots of editors and trackers . Some how i just keep coming back to good old DMC4 :D even knowing it does not do all i want. I was trying to say that i just have not found (for me) an editor that feels more ok for me and would like to find one or see one being made...Maybe i will give "TFX" a try. And yes i do try and recheck and look for some other editors/trackers (versions of) to see if they fit me..











2003-08-18 07:36
Orcan
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 15
StOfF
Thanx for answer. Hmm, but I have one of Dgazz techno music and after depacking I am able load it to DMC 5.0 editor. I must switch to speed 0 and music play but I feeel that drums are not identic like in player. I tried contact Dgazz for this problem, but he didn't answer. If you want I can send it to analyze:)

Topic: is not reason return from DMC 5 to DMC 4 if you have improved version of DMC 5+ by Creamd. I was long time composing in DMC 7, what is improved DMC 4. Great editor...but in this type of editors are sound limited abilities. In DMC 5+ you can finally edit in audible mode, ufff this was my first request to Creamd. Without this function I'm never DMC 5 composer. Another super utility is tracking into sector. I'm still asking Creamd for another function which I was using in DMC 7 but I am still waiting because he is enough busy.
2003-08-18 16:36
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Okay, so I couldn't stand it and decided to sit over C64.sk and do some slavecoding again. Possibility to start from any part of the tune added to DMC5.0+ today.

enjoy Orcane ;-)
2003-08-18 16:37
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
scheiss.. I mean.. #C-64... eee. nnaah... CCS64... Commodore64 .. or how is that called...
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