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2003-09-16 10:18
deizi
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REAL THING or Emulator?

do you have/or use The Real Thing instead of an emulator? ...and what's your opinion about emulators? (they don't work properly). i'm not really using them anymore. because i have the real thing. :)
 
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2003-09-16 21:53
Testicle
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Quote: i have not encountered a single vga monitor which was NOT able to display 50 Hz... they only have problems with line frequencies, not with refresh rate. but you still won't have 100% smooth scrolling, since windows and linux were not built to have smooth animations.

that's the only - and in my opinion the hardest (or worst) - problem with emulators *i* have: the missing smooth-scrolling. but, emulator are pretty good though and i usually use only emulators. i only start the real c64 when i have much time. the problem is, i still have no transfer-cable, so i'm bound to emulators.

i think it depends on the purposes. and for my purposes the emultators do their job very well.
2003-09-16 22:45
fade
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Quote: After all this debate shows that we have fianlly grew up. No more flaming about emulators. ;-)

thats because kiddy fiddler Murdock isn't here :)
2003-09-17 00:13
CyberBrain
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This has been really interesting reading. So for most of you guys, C64 is really an emulator here in 2003? You code for the emulator, make music for the emulator, watch demos on emulators (etc)?
2003-09-17 05:18
Dane
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The emulator is a must when I paint X-fli pictures. The pixels blur together too much on a tv-set. I also tend to make most my worktunes in WinVice nowadays. And of course, coding is a whole lot easier with alt+w and fake reu-files.
2003-09-17 05:49
deizi
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Quote: C64 Emulators are now at the point of being nearly 100 percent accurate (Including those with extreme vic trickery)

The main problem is the stable refresh of the display. Most PC monitors do not support 50Hz and all the imperfections (Which would have normally been blended by television) are displayed.

However a Video card with TV out can be used to display the emulator on a Television screen at exact 50Hz rate resulting in an extremely authentic experience)

Shame about the not so 100% sid emulation though


you said it! and you get the best FEELING when you watch demos, play games with a LARGE (or widescreen) TV. ;)
2003-09-17 05:50
deizi
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that post was ment for creamd.
2003-09-17 06:13
Stryyker

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For coding I've grown to love comfy text editors, more than 1000 chars on screen. I love fast assembly with less limitations. VICE monitor isn't too bad and has helped me much during debugging. So far the only thing stopping me from composing on PC is the keyboard (too lazy to relearn the reflexes). Still, emulators are a great tool. I love having some variety.
2003-09-17 06:17
Puterman
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I'm still pretty childish, so I use the real thing for everything.
2003-09-17 08:21
Bert/RDS

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So do I.
2003-09-17 09:02
CreaMD

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Bert, Puterman. There is nothing childish about having your personal preferences.

Deizy: I currently use 1084 color monitor, but I'm going to set up a projector and big speakers sooner or later.
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