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Cupid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 83 |
Emulator Awareness Campaign - your help needed
Evening Ladies and Gentlemen,
I want your help and support for an idea I had when I saw the emufuxxor of Krill/Plush a year or so ago.
The Emulator Awareness campaign.
In a nutshell, it is a small program that you can link to any release (or allow it to load the main part) that will show a "nag screen" in emulators, explaining that the user is using an emulator and has to be aware of the experience he will get not being the real thing.
This can prevent a lot of wrong criticism and bug reports, and, at least in our book, is a more mature and efficient way to deal with the emulator phenomena than not caring about "emulamers".
Read about it here:
http://www.cupid.de/eac/
What I need from you now, is a list of problems that emulators have, what bad experience users get and that there is not a way around them for the developer.
This data will be used to fill the "where emulators fail" section on the site, which will be featured in the nag screen.
Thanks for your attention, flame away
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Intensity
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 337 |
Yes? Still waiting... :) |
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Cupid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 83 |
Intensity WTFAYBOA?
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Intensity
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 337 |
In earnest, i don't dislike the idea about linking that kind of a message to a c64-production. Especially when it comes to SID-Emulation which is not perfect yet on an emu. I wouldn't like it when people rate my music on an emu while it is the real c64 and a new SID model that will play my tunes with 100% quality (Have I said quality? Uh...)
But...
1. Could the creator of an emulator learn how to avoid those linked messages and built in an option named "Avoid Nag Screens"?
2. Don't we trust in C64-Emulation on a PC or are we just too unpatient that we want to introduce nag screens, since Emulators WILL be able to emulate the c64 in all ways 100% one day (it will take a long time, maybe some years, but I believe that they *will* reach it to emulate a c64 for 100% in the next future) ?
Just some points to think about.
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
The nag screens will disappear when the emulator behaviour difference, that the fuxxor routine uses for detection, is eliminated. Depending on the routine and encryption used, bypassing it by a "cheat" as you suggest can be hard..
Btw. another question, if the nagrequester acts as a loader, will the program to be loaded be heavily encrypted? People will perhaps reverse-engineer this, just for the challenge if not otherwise.
Urgh.. I hope Rich doesn't get into the defuxxoring business (possibly with a fakelabel), if this becomes popular :)
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Emulators are very useful tools.
TDJ - Yeah, I somtimes wish I'd go for trades instead. Bit too lazy to end my subscriptions, I suppose. However, having said that, my hopes are up for the Reload-event supposed to take place after Morrison's run ends. If it results in CC bringing back Betsy in XXM it can't be all bad!
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69 |
I've got Power64 on Mac. I haven't had any problems with smooth scrolling... it even leaves a trail on the screen. I have noticed that the sound and video aren't exactly synchronized. And as for the actual image on screen... that's more the fault of higher-quality monitors than it is an emulator. If you've got a video card that supports RCA-out, hook it up to a TV and run the demo there. THAT will look nice again.
I'm not sure how I feel about having a nag screen, though. If you're going to do one, maybe have it detail the best way to view the demo ON the emulator. For instance:
"You're using an emulator. To get the best experience, turn SID filters OFF, run in PAL mode at exact CPU cycle with full 1541 emulator ON."
Nothing irks me more when I get halfway through a demo and it starts using some IRQ loader that totally baffles the emulator, and forces me to restart. Ergh.
AJ
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
i wouldnt even spend 30 minutes on such a pointless idea
i'd like to get my hands on some of grant morrison's
older stuff, like st swithins day and new adventures
of hitler.
but atleast theres been a new print of stray toasters
by bill sienkiewicz |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
@Dane: I've gone from 30 to 3 subscriptions (New X-Men, Planetary, Powers) within a year. New X-Men & Powers are both almost done for me, Planetary will also end within the year I guess. I kinda miss going to my lcs every week but the joy of reading a story in one go makes up for it. Plus all those tpb's look really cool on the shelf :) I'm thinking about starting to collect some other stuff though of which I'm not sure it will be traded (Wanted, Demo).
@Hollowman: Grant rocks, he is my fave writer. I've got the complete Invisibles collection in trades, his Animal Man in trades, all issues of the Filth and I even got his Doom Patrol & Flex Mentallo stuff, bought it on E-bay a few years ago :) |
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Check out Zenith. Probably one of the best. |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
Morrisons "St.Swithins Day" is a really great one. Love the neat style of the inking, and the idea of scaring Margaret Thatcher is just great. "Neurotic Boy Outsider". :-) |
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