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2015-03-30 10:51
robo

Registered: Nov 2012
Posts: 9
problem with vice 2.4.18

I downloaded the latest vice build from pokefinder (WinVICE-2.4.18-x86-r29549). I want it to always use the "true drive emulation", but it NEVER uses it.

When I try to load something, it works, but without using the true drive emu.
When I try to load sth using the AR6 fastloader, it simply does nothing.

Is there something broken or am I doing sth wrong?
2015-03-30 11:17
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
turn true drive emu on? you need to be more exact on what settings you have and what happens.

you're doing something wrong, since this works since like ages.
2015-03-30 12:30
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078
Turn off "handle true drive emulation". Set the autostart method to d64 or inject to ram, not virtual fs.
2015-03-30 17:04
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
btw hiding deep the pal filter on/off, doesnt click with me. not good for debugging when you really want to see where some pixels are.
2015-03-30 17:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
TDE is even default for a while now, so to not use it you must explicitly turn it off. *shrug*
2015-03-30 17:55
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932
He maybe depacks stuff into his old vice directory. Delete your old configs!
2015-03-30 18:49
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078
The way VICE handles preferences this will always be a problem. Since every option is saved to the vicerc, regardless of if the user has changed the option or not, means that for a majority of users old stupid defaults (like handle TDE) override new better defaults.

I have like 10 settings I change, yet my vicerc is 406 lines.
2015-03-30 20:09
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
the way users use it is the problem. start with an actually fresh install instead and the problem goes away.
2015-03-30 22:03
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078
Don't blame users for bad application design, nothing tells them to delete the config when upgrading. Doing so is completely counterintuitive and also deletes the settings they do want to save.
2015-03-30 22:49
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Quote:
nothing tells them to delete the config when upgrading

infact, making a mechanism that warns about it is on my todo list :)

however, this is about a snapshot build - and you should never "upgrade" your existing installation with it. this has huge potential for creating all sorts of problems, just dont.
2015-03-30 23:15
robo

Registered: Nov 2012
Posts: 9
I deleted the vice.ini, setup everything from scratch (to the same settings I use since years) and now it works.
That is strange... I don't know what's different now ;-)

btw: I never overwrite existing vice installations/folders. I still need the old versions to load my old snapshot-files...
A converter tool would be cool... That would also support other tools, like the infiltrator disassembler, which only accepts a small range of snapshot-versions.
 
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