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2007-09-27 20:09
Rough
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Handle id #6826 : The Arrogance

this entry should be divided into two persons and merged with the other nicks of those, TJ and Reptil.
2016-06-15 18:38
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2583
Hmmm, I would rather leave it as "2 person handle", so that the credits can stay. Otherwise it would be extremely tricky to attribute the credits properly, especially in the beginning, before Thorsten quit.
But another thing: the trivia mentions that they also shared the handle "The Gangstar" while in Brainbombs - but there is already Gangstar ?! Or was this handle shared even by 3 people?
2023-10-19 22:37
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2583
OK, this was finally sorted: there is already the other entry for the single scener The Arrogance (Thorsten, before he used the handle together with Thomas). I have now merged Thorsten's former handles with this entry.

The reference to "Gangstar" has been removed in the meantime by Thomas himself, so it probably was just some error by deceived memories or sth.
2023-10-19 23:06
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11377
Or he just doesnt wants to be associated with it? We had some fun with Tyree and his old handles too :)
PS: The Brainbombs entry gives some hints about this :)
2023-10-19 23:31
chancer

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 346
some people don't want to be linked to other handles they use ;-) for a few reasons.

if *THEY* want to change that, then down to them...

not some nosey curtain twitchers with nothing better to do.
2023-10-20 08:42
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2583
Well, it has been publically visible for 17 years and added by The Arrogance himself, so it can't be THAT secret, can it?
Exactly ZERO curtains needed to be twitched to get that information.
2023-10-20 12:15
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11377
Quote:
if *THEY* want to change that, then down to them...

not some nosey curtain twitchers with nothing better to do.

No. csdb is about documenting facts, not what someone likes it to be. Editing out those facts is a reason for ban (which happened to Tyree, for example)

If you don't want to be associated with some handle you use, make sure noone else knows that is the case - its that simple :)
2023-10-20 13:19
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2971
Quoting chatGPZ
If you don't want to be associated with some handle you use, make sure noone else knows that is the case - its that simple :)
I still don't understand why it different handles MUST link back to the individual using them - especially when said people are still active and against this practice.

The handles are usually the only thing that any random person can know about the creators of productions, via those productions. Why go beyond that?

It seems kind of arbitrary and possibly dubious w/r/t privacy protection laws.
2023-10-20 13:44
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11377
If a handle is known to belong to a certain individual, the db will reflect that, no more no less. If we'd leave it to that very individual then we'd have a nice chaos right there, and a lot of the interesting research wouldn't be possible either. Don't see what so hard to understand about that.

Why ppl like Didi don't get linked to all their crap handles is a different question :) (It's probably just not as interesting - and plain obvious anyway. We'll link it in some years, like we did with Tyree.)

(Feel free to link handles i have used to my entry. I'll do the same with others.)
2023-10-20 19:33
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2583
If you want to hide it, you have to be good at hiding.
Adding it and leaving it in the trivia for 17 years is just not a very good hiding strategy I assume.
I am sure there are many undetected fake handles floating around here, including from gpz. ;-)
Database integrity, however, is trying to link it down to individuals where possible. 1 scener with 50 handles != 50 sceners.
2023-10-21 10:05
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2971
Doesn't answer my question why there must be a link from handle to actual person in the first place. =)

Handles are like a brand. Different handle, different kind of product, possibly different quality as well.

Knowing who's behind this handle or that is trivia, but i still don't see just why it's so relevant as to ignore people's express wishes.

Not maintaining those aggregations is not the same as leaving that to the unwashed masses.

And it's not like there are significantly more handles than actual people floating around, i guess. Plus there'll always be a non-zero portion of yet-unknown multiple-handles-one-person links.
 
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