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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Release id #88319 : Robin of the Wood
REQUEST DELETION.
1 Block Basic Loaders represent no release. Original ABC release untouched - no re-crack - double upload - local lamer print line additions to show they owned a c64. What else you need?
l8r
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
A release is a release according to some ppl here.
Therefor don't count on it to be deleted (scene history preservation blahdiblah even when it was little Johnny back in 86 who changed a crackintro with a monitor).
A koala pic converted from ratemypoo.com uploaded to csdb counts also as a release.
Live with it.
A fellow Don Quichotte.
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
This release was clearly spread. Even if it is a "local lamer" that you don't think is fit to be registered here, it was RELEASED and SPREAD and thus it belongs.
You DO understand the purpose of the CDSb, right? It isn't to glorify the big demo and cracking groups. It's to build a comprehensive landscape of what the scene IS and WAS. Local lamers and the like were part of that scene-- a BIG part. I thought this matter was settled LONG ago.
If this place ever comes up with a "scene purity standard" where releases and groups are arbitrarily deemed "worthy" of being here, the site will become useless in form and function.
This is the wrong battle to fight, Zero. If you want to crusade over something, here are a few other problems that your rage may be of use:
The one zillion useless "Untitled" multicolor pictures (Untitled? Really? Was the name blank on the disk?)
Uploading the same disk for multiple releases (cramming a D64 full of games and then uploading that exact same D64 for 6-7 different entries... LAZY!
People uploading utilities and games that weren't released by ANYBODY. Those are NOT scene releases!
There you go. Have a go at one of those problems.
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
@Ninjasbane: I *DO* fight and comment crappy naming of files and hate S0620.D64 the same way I hate "ROBIN OF THE WOOD RECRACK.D64".
I *DO NOT* appreciate non-scene related tool uploads but at least they might have a point - especially when many can be seen as the origin of some scene tool. (See about all Monitors, customised TASS Versions, quite a few packers, LYNX.)
But what makes you think it got "spread" in a way it belongs here? This disk simply shows that there were three people knowing each other and making up a gang name and one of them was able to understand the c64 manual.
So, where is the failure more complete? When calling this a release or when naming the image a recrack without even having remotely an idea of what a re-crack may be.
l8r
Count Zero/CyberpunX/SCS*TRC |
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tnu
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Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
...regarding the robin of the wood release i think it is far more justified to be in here than alot of useless crap released nowadays....but thats my opinion.....i see it far more important to save releases from the scene-days than massproduced grafix and music from today......but thats my opinion....
...count zero : you seem a bit over-upset about this issue....but maybe you are uploading alot of stuff here and knows about all effort it takes..... |
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
"Local lamer" releases provide a timeline of scene events and history and provide a snapshot of those localities. For every JEDI, ESI or Ikari there were ten of these local groups, and they were important to what the scene was and how it functioned back in the day.
And on a personal note, I like the local lamer releases.
As for cc85's mislabeling... he's new here, but I think he is doing a good job. Once he gets the knack, I'm sure his collection will make a fine addition to the Db.
My biggest concern when this conversation comes up (and it has a few times) is that I'm worry over what will be excluded. This isn't Pouet or Gamebase. It's a cross referential database and I find it highly useful as it exists now (in fact, I cited a few releases in my graduate studies thesis as I tracked shifts in the "scene" lexicon!)
Any omissions (even local lamer groups) cause "gaps" in the fabric of the scene and I find that to be much more troubling than a few poorly chronicled entries or 1 block local lamer releases.
So... I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:As for cc85's mislabeling... he's new here
no he isn't, he knows damn well what he is up to =P |
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tnu
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Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
Quote:no he isn't, he knows damn well what he is up to =P
...been here....been there.....been everywhere... |
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Jon
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
nymshifting for fun and profit?
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tnu
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
....there is power from profit....but wheres the profit???... |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
Quote:This disk simply shows that there were three people knowing each other and making up a gang name and one of them was able to understand the c64 manual.
Hey, Andreas, isn't this the way CYBERPUNX got born? ;) |
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