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2007-08-15 21:01
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
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Useless(?) facts about sids

Do you know any facts about certain SIDs that is fairly unknown to others, like "That tune is tuned in A=442"?
Well, post it here...

The Thief (he eats beef) is tuned to (or at least sounds like) A=442.


2007-08-16 08:29
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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Ha, I always knew there's something fishy about this tune, but couldn't put my finger on it! Thanks McMeatLoaf, finally I can find sleep again...! ;-)
2007-08-16 10:42
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 469
wow, you have THE ear. i wish i could hear the difference
2007-08-16 11:28
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
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i wish i knew what this means after all.
is this a perfect pitch/tune-matter, or am i totally out of the game here? =)
2007-08-16 13:27
SIDWAVE
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Jeroen Tel corrected some arpeggios in Turbo Outrun, for the HVSC crew. The tune in hvsc is not 100% the same as in the game.
2007-08-16 13:31
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 964
Some of the Dutch Breeze tunes by Reyn were initially composed for System 3's Turbo Charge. There, I've said it, the S3 word.
2007-08-16 13:35
Laxity
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Yeah, thanks. That made my day. :)
2007-08-16 13:52
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 112
Quote: i wish i knew what this means after all.
is this a perfect pitch/tune-matter, or am i totally out of the game here? =)


You're completely right. I've got "perfect" pitch (although not THAT perfect), although it's only accurate to around 25 cents (unless it's tuned to something like A442).

Listen to Textuality (and more); It's around 20 cents too sharp, around A=445 (it uses BFJOSX-freq, most sids use CGKOTY or AEINRW, some use DHLQV (check Galway's tunes)).
2007-08-16 15:40
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 964
darn, tune 3 of that No-XS sid sounds familiar. I think that's an Uncle Tom (or Zaphoid or so, Future Composer thingy) MOD mix. Maybe one of you knows?

Cool sounds in that one anyways..
2007-08-16 15:49
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5126
could you make clear what is a=445, and cgkoty, and the rest? :) /me dumb for music
2007-08-16 15:58
McMeatLoaf

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 112
Quote: could you make clear what is a=445, and cgkoty, and the rest? :) /me dumb for music

Some information below.
Note that I'm kinda guessing, so it may not be correct :/

CGKOTY: It's the freq-table from the C64 PRG as far as I know, it's A=440 on NTSC (America) computers, but it's detuned on PAL (Europe) computers (something like 60-64 cents, or A=424).

AEINRW: A=440 on PAL computers.

BFJOSX: Seldom used, I think it's A=445 (on PAL).

DHLQV: Used by e.g. Galway and Zardax. Detuned ca. 30 cents on PAL AFAIK. I'm not sure if this is correct though.


If you're wondering what the heck I'm talking about:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch#History_of_pitch_sta..
:)
 
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