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2002-08-20 21:11
Mixer
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Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 2
Privacy

Recently, I have grown aware of the possibilities of misuse of personal information, therefore I have sought to remove any of my personal information away from public websites and such databases which I do not find secure, trustworthy or necessary.

Today has been the 1st time that I have entered the CSDb. Albeit a nice and honourable purpose to collect such a database, the road to hell is covered with good intentions. I can only speculate where my information has been collected from, rumours? It was mostly wrong and after this non-existent for other than what me with the alias Mixer have done in demoscene, which I think is the main purpose of the database.

I suggest that the database creators make sure that none of the personal information in this database gets to search bots, and all queries are logged, also secure connections sould be set to use in data transfer, and permissions asked from the persons listed in the database by anyone adding someone others personal information to the db. If this is too much to ask, then the creators do not know what they are doing.

I am quite serious about privacy issues and want to deliver this opinion to all of you to discuss. Spam is the least that can happen.¨You're right, I could go on with this for pages.

2002-08-21 14:47
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
not to spoil it, I dunno what info on him were added exactly, but he's got a point...

adding a handle, real name and country of a scener is one thing... adding postal addresses / phone numbers etc. of someone without his/her permission is another, more serious issue...

I do believe that most countries do have privacy laws that explicitly forbid giving away personal data without the person's consent...

maybe linking a single entry to a login name to mark that as the user's own entry, and allowing a user to add postal and stuff like that for that single entry (his own) only, could be a way to prevent potential legal issues...?
2002-08-21 15:57
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Yep, good idea.
I'd also prefer if some fields of the scener-infopage are locked for public editing. I mean handle, real name and country are in most cases sufficient to distinguish between sceners with the same handle. I'd leave these fields open for public editing, but close the rest, so that only the scener itself can publish data he wishes to make publicly available.
2002-08-22 12:16
CyberBrain
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Posts: 392
I've never been much interested in law, so i don't know much about it, but would it be sufficient to write a warning next to the adress-fields on the edit-pages (or something), stating that you're not allowed to write an adress unless you've got permission from the scener? (and maybe also make a "terms & conditions" on the help-pages)

As i said i dunno much about these legal-issues..
2002-08-22 13:38
The MeatBall

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 367
As for where the info was taken from, I'd guess it's from Origo Dreamline's own official website. http://www.uta.fi/~trpeki/origo/0_members.htm has info on their members.
2002-08-22 14:23
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: I've never been much interested in law, so i don't know much about it, but would it be sufficient to write a warning next to the adress-fields on the edit-pages (or something), stating that you're not allowed to write an adress unless you've got permission from the scener? (and maybe also make a "terms & conditions" on the help-pages)

As i said i dunno much about these legal-issues..


Why make it hard, while the method suggested above (people can only enter their own information) is sufficient?
2002-08-23 18:00
Jayce
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Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 39
I don't care, i move from one safehouse to the other! Jups that rights, all in a days work for your average friendly neighbourhood criminalman.

No seriously, i see nothing wrong with someone publishing their home adress. It's not that it was a problem in the old days, just pick out any swappers mag and the place will be filled with adressen. And believe me, it's not only swappers who read those mags.

2002-08-23 23:39
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
i'd really like to know what more serious can happen than spam? getting brought to judical court for C64 pirating in the year 2002? your neighbour knowing that you are using computers?

and spamming cant happen due to SPAM.SUX protection.
2002-08-24 07:28
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Jayce, ofcourse there's a difference between those mags (where people asked for their addresses to be published, and which were read by only a very small number of people) and a public database on internet (where people's addresses are published withour their consent, and the possibility of webspiders picking them up is very real).

rough: it's not just the email addresses, but also the real addresses. There are several reasons why somebody wouldn't want their home address to be known. And maybe it's no problem for you, but you can't decide that for anybody else, hence the safest thing to do is to make sure that such information can only be entered by the person itself. So everybody can decide for him/herself if he wants his/her home address & telephone number etc. published here.

The rules that Mixer brought up aren't there for nothing, you know ..
2002-08-24 11:10
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
two words of something that could happen and in fact is worse than spam:

phone terror

just to help you people understand =)

2002-08-24 12:27
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Seven, very nice, I've been wasting many words, and you get it done in two .. bastard :)
 
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