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2005-03-21 05:00
Wanderer
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Misuse of voting

- Is there any policy of someone voting for themselves?

- Someone voted a '1' for all of the credentials of my profile. Now since this person was never on my BBS, and not on the scene when I had a bbs... how could they vote a '1'.

In fact, said person, voted a '1' all the way through my voting sections on here. The person is a member of a group that I have a disagreement with, and it was purely done to be malicious.

I'm not really concerned with what the vote results have to say, but if there's a policy or something that can be done, I'd like to know.

Voting complete 1's for someone isn't fair if you're doing it just to be malicious and not acting upon the person's actual contributions - then they go and vote for themselves.

2005-03-21 07:35
Stan
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Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 187
I see your point and I think you are right with your complaints. Yet I do not see any effecient measures against it. Self-voting is an old phenomenon, so is voting other people down. Take it easy.

2005-03-21 10:37
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
Perfect solution against down-voting: Only show the vote of the person looking at the votes. This way he will always see the results he wants the releases to have...
2005-03-21 13:28
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Or simple - make all votes public, so people can see who down-votes.

I can only think of one who could get a '1' as vote. The rest deserves some more.
2005-03-21 14:51
H.O
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
Down-voting is a problem. Usually it seems to be for two reasons;

1. Someone disagrees with the total a group/person/release has got and then tries to bring it down (or up) even though they dont think said group/person/release deserves that grade.

Personally I find this both childish and lame, since the overall score reflects what everyone thinks of a group/person/release and not what one person thinks.

2. Someone wants a group/person/release to be before another group/person/release in the list and thus downvotes groups/persons/releases above it.

I think 1001 crew is a good example of the latter. They have gotten two 1-votes, three 2-votes and one 3-vote. Noone with any sense would seriously give those kind of votes to a group like 1001 crew. Even if you think they are overrated, that they were pompous in some of their texts (which they were, but most of us has been that in one scrolltext or two) there is no way to merit such a low vote for a group that was important both as crackers and coders; removing all the border alone makes it an important group in scene history.

I think the best way to get rid of some of this downvoting would be to make all votes public. If you cant stand for your vote when it is made public you shouldnt make that vote.

All IMO of course.
2005-03-21 16:41
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
this is a repeating problem... the public votes would be the radical cut. The best would be to set 1 month transition period, send out the e-mails to all the registered users of csdb who have hidden their votes that they have 1 month to erase the votes they consider usafe ;-)))
2005-03-21 16:46
Earthshaker

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 118
Quote: this is a repeating problem... the public votes would be the radical cut. The best would be to set 1 month transition period, send out the e-mails to all the registered users of csdb who have hidden their votes that they have 1 month to erase the votes they consider usafe ;-)))

Now that's a nice solution i think.
2005-03-21 17:27
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Quote: this is a repeating problem... the public votes would be the radical cut. The best would be to set 1 month transition period, send out the e-mails to all the registered users of csdb who have hidden their votes that they have 1 month to erase the votes they consider usafe ;-)))

What is the problem making the votes public? People cant stand behind their votes? If thats the case they shouldnt even vote.
2005-03-21 17:42
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Hehe,Human-nature disrupts any objective voting-system.
Many lines have been written about this topic already.
But making the votes public might be a good thing.
Anyway,my own rule is simple...

If I have nothing nice to say,I´ll shut up.

Besides..
Seeing a release rated too high (in your opinion) doesn´t need a harsh correction by giving it 1/2/3.
I have seen good stuff being lower rated than BASIC-shit.

Maybe it does help to make additional votes for demos possible.
Like a "Coding","Music","Graphics" and "Design" option?
2005-03-21 18:02
Puterman
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 188
Mason, I think the only problem with public votes is that the people running this site don't want them. We even voted about it, didn't we? So I guess we'll have to live with these discussions popping up now and then.
2005-03-21 19:06
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: Mason, I think the only problem with public votes is that the people running this site don't want them. We even voted about it, didn't we? So I guess we'll have to live with these discussions popping up now and then.

This is an old discussion, yes .. maybe I should once again bring up my solution that only public voters can give marks from 1-10, and anonymous voters from 4-7 or so?

Now please ignore this, as before, so everything is back to the status quo.
 
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