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2020-08-28 22:50
lemming

Registered: Oct 2009
Posts: 44
Beamracer ... who's in?

I saw that Beamracer is finally available to buy (see https://beamracer.net/) and I'm thinking about ordering two of these but it's not a cheap piece of hardware for sure.
I certainly think it's an exciting expansion.

So, who else is in for a ride, eh?
2020-08-28 22:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11443
for that price, no way. they better have a killer app to justify that investment :)
2020-08-29 11:11
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1794
Looks very cool, but for me, I'd rather not add semi-permanent performance mods inside the machine itself.

Wouldn't mind trying out cartridge based boosts though. Should be possible to some extent based on the 1541U2 for instance, although the copper accesses would block the 6510.
2020-08-29 11:46
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11443
Implementing this is actually totally doable using a cartridge like 1541u or TC64. In fact, both Gideon and Ourselves had similar things on our "nice to have" lists, but dropped it at some point because of various reasons (for us mostly: we don't want to create a new platform).

"the copper accesses would block the 6510."
no, you "feed" the VICII with data over the expansion port - TC64 does this all the time :)
2020-08-29 12:51
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1794
Quoting Groepaz
"the copper accesses would block the 6510."
no, you "feed" the VICII with data over the expansion port - TC64 does this all the time :)

It would block the 6510 in the C64, no? But ofcourse you can add an arbitrary CPU (e.g cloned 6510) in the cartridge.
2020-08-29 12:52
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11443
Yeah, you need the CPU in the cartridge.... not a big deal though :)
2020-08-29 12:58
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1794
Quoting Groepaz
Yeah, you need the CPU in the cartridge.... not a big deal though :)

Sure, but what I ment I wouldn't mind trying out was an addon with _just_ copper in the cartridge. That should be less complex to fiddle with implementing variants of.
2020-08-29 14:09
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11443
i dont think that can work, thats why this addon sits between VIC and mobo
2020-08-29 14:14
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1794
Quoting Groepaz
i dont think that can work, thats why this addon sits between VIC and mobo

It should be possible, it's just that the 6510 halts during transfers. Like a REU if you will.

Anyway, this thread was about the Beamracer so let's let that continue, sorry...
2020-08-29 14:16
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11443
yes, sure, like REU can work. and yes :)
2020-08-29 21:22
Silver Dream !

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 108
Quoting tlr
Looks very cool, but for me, I'd rather not add semi-permanent performance mods inside the machine itself.


If you don't use it at any given moment - it remains "invisible" – there is no need to remove it when not in use. And since there aren't many expansions requiring VIC socket access (VideoMod is directly supported), chances that you find yourself in need for removing it are rather slim. The same can't really be said about the cartridge port :-)
 
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