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2006-11-15 21:35
The Shark-INC
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Candyman

Hi All,

I was sad to learn today from CSDb that Candyman (aka Dave) has passed away. I thought I would give a little more info about him. Candyman's profile notes that he was a real-life candy man. I do not think he filled vending machines, however. He told me that he owned a candy business where they distributed a box of candy to various businesses and offices. You would then put money in a slot in the box and take candy on an honor system. This is common in the USA, although vending machines are common as well. He told me that if ever he was ripped off, he simply would no longer bring candy to that office. I imagine he had a partnership with the secretaries as well to watch over his candy and money.

Dave was pioneer too. He started what I believe was the first USA scene magazine named Influx and then later used his wealth to order originals with overnight mail to get a leg up on the competition. This worked extremely well on the PC scene with his newly formed group The Humble Guys (THG) and had some light USA crack success on the C64 with FBR and Intense. His sense of humor regarding his "local lamers" was legendary, and could also be seen how he ran THG. He proudly treated his locals like peasants, but allowed them to work their way up in rank if they proved themselves. Ironically, his locals loved this kind of treatment, but this was in part because Dave would reward them by "slowly feeding them" releases now and then.

Here's a picture of Candyman... RIP, Dave...



The Shark

PS – In the back of my mind, with his sense of humor, I wonder if Candyman is still alive and just pulled a fast one on us. I guess I don't want to believe he is dead.
2006-11-15 22:03
Death Demon
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Wow. Candyman and I used to talk quite frequently when he was on the PC in The Humble Guys. I was sort of messing in the PC scene, but nothing like the C64 scene. I spent a lot of time in chat with him talking about old times, sharing stories, etc. Eventually we were back to talking on voice again, but only randomly. Awhile back, we were trading emails, but again, very intermittently. I haven't heard from him in a long time. I thought of him as a great guy. A lot of fun to talk to and a great guy to have had in the scene.

Of course, there's the whole Oahawhool thing that comes to mind. And as bad as that was for CMan, it was pretty damned funny for the scene in general. One of those little stories that grows to legendary status.

Sad to hear he died. I suppose with all of us getting older, we're going to see some of the older people in the scene from back then start to show up in these types of emails. Sad.
2006-11-16 06:50
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Very sad indeed. The list in scene heaven grows further...

2006-11-16 10:11
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 461
Really sad news.

Without any doubt he did alot of the C64 and Pc-Scene, some of the things even first. As The Shark mentioned The Humble Guys, I still think it was one of the first more structured pc groups doing cracks.

2006-11-16 11:10
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085
and another legend died... sucks... rip candyman
2006-11-16 11:40
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
R.I.P
2006-11-16 12:21
Skylab

Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 183
It's really sad. Another mate left our world. My deepest condolences goes out to his family/friends

Once we all will meet again in the scener's heaven...

R.I.P.
David J. Francis
aka Candyman of FBR (C64) / THG (PC)
2006-11-16 15:36
OEP

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 60
That's a bummer. RIP Candyman, thanks for your contributions.

The Oahawhool story will forever be in my memories.
2006-11-16 22:30
AMB

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 15
Sad news again...

Rest in peace.
2006-11-17 03:44
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598
Quote: That's a bummer. RIP Candyman, thanks for your contributions.

The Oahawhool story will forever be in my memories.


what about that Oahawool story?
sounds funny
2006-11-17 06:48
The Shark-INC
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Well, it wouldn't have been funny if you were Candyman. Here's my version of the story. Candyman was an up and coming scener in 1988. I believe he was in Epic, and he got an offer to join FBR by Oahawhool. By this time, FBR was not doing so well with their competent staff gone. They had lost most of their major contacts except Zenith, but this was a big step for Candyman. Looking back, as I was in communication with C-man at the time, I am kicking myself for not asking Candyman to join INC as he would have been a great addition in combination with Master Kracker.

Now, for the other half of the equation. I was in a serious war with Oahawhool at the time as Fairlight left FBR for INC. Oahawhool wasn't at the stalker level as Wanderer is today, but rather chose the silent strikes such as turning in any competitors and doing all sorts of evil plotting such as trying to get power and phone lines shut off (and this is the tame stuff he would do). I won't get into all of this now, but trust me, he was pure evil and I don't label people like that often. As time went on, C-Man and Oahawhool formed a tight friendship which only hurt my relationship with C-man. C-man, to his credit, tried his best to remain nuetral. As Oahawhool fell on some hard times back in New Jersey, C-man offered him some work and a room at Dave's house. When C-man told me this, I told him that he was inviting "pure evil" and a master manipulator into his home in Missouri. He laughed it off and wondered when Oahwhool and I would end our fued.

Perhaps because C-Man was spending too much time with his business and his various PC/C-64 success that he was ignoring his wife. Maybe their relationship was getting stale after raising teenage children. Whatever the case, Oahawhool made the choice to betray the one guy who offered him so much. Once C-Man figured it all out, Oahawhool and C-man's wife took off together, and this was certainly a sore subject with C-Man so he didn't like to talk about it. After the dust settled, C-Man and I were on good terms again, and it was clear to me that he agreed with my assessment of Oahawhool.
 
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