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2007-06-30 19:20
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1089
blue wins, moderators must improve, baracuda out

I understand that the fresh moderation team needs to find its way around how to properly moderate here, so mistakes are made and that's fine.

However, I'm getting a bit tired of the trigger happy thread-closers, especially when the first bans *must* be discussed properly to find out if the correct course of action was taken or not and if the majority agrees with the action taken.

It's starting to look like moderator X gets tired of explaining things, so he closes a thread where a certain ban *should* be explained. Nothing in the now closed thread was out of line and an honest request for more info, and after *finally* giving full info you close it immediately. I think that's completely wrong.

If you guys keep this up, more ppl will leave.
2007-06-30 19:36
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
150 posts in a thread regarding the Baracuda in the Moderators area aswell as constant bitching about Baracuda on Irc, in Msgs, in PMs and such should be enough? :)

We removed him upon many users request - Closing the thread Bordaux started lead him to actually talk to us on IRC instead and it did seem fine with him.

Should we reopen the thread, even since Baracuda is gone? What more would you like to discuss?
2007-06-30 19:41
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Sorry Burglar but I disagree. Actually this is the first time I'm really satisfied with the moderation at CSDb. A lot of crap gets cleaned up fastly...
2007-06-30 19:43
Tim
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467
Agreed!

Myself having just had a full and open discussion I am happy that Creamd took the time to explain some things to me, for that my thanks.. at least I have a more satisfied feeling now and I strongly urge you guys just to state such things publicly.

Personally however I still do not agree the decision, but I seem to be a minority there, so for now I will not debate it further unless more people feel the same and/or as long as this post is open (thus not opening the topic again myself).

I am however also unhappy with the fact that my previous post was closed for no apparent reason as I feel that despite some harsh words, I did nothing wrong, however closing the post leaves absolutely no room for debate at all here.
Playing the devils advocate, it could even be reason for just more spam in the system.

You guys already tend to have a strong non-scene related attitude towards new users to the database (eg. Remarks pointing towards lemon’s approach and such / new users that left the scene prior to it’s peaking activity age) that I strongly feel that this and follow-up actions will only cause more harm then good and result in parts of history being lost if more and more of us simply refuse to share their hard work and or contents.

I for one do not feel the need for guardians or cops or however you would like to see a mod, but if the majority of people want.. then fine.. but let me protest in an open environment if I feel that you guys are not doing the best noticeable job.

Thanks



2007-06-30 19:46
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1089
we discussed it on irc and things are more clear now. no point in reopening the other thread, as most important stuff was already said.

also, I never wanted to argue about baracuda being banned, cause I totally agree with it.
2007-06-30 19:51
Tim
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467
Quote: we discussed it on irc and things are more clear now. no point in reopening the other thread, as most important stuff was already said.

also, I never wanted to argue about baracuda being banned, cause I totally agree with it.


Agreed to no need to re-open.
2007-07-01 07:57
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I can only say I agree fully with the actions taken by the moderators, though I was never involved directly in the Baracuda case. One less troll and thread saboteur around. Now it'll perhaps be possible to read the forum once again.

The moderators should only have to explain their actions when their reasons aren't obvious, i.e. when they ban someone who isn't acting like a complete and utter tool.
2007-07-01 08:39
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
i have to totally agree with the topic :)
2007-07-01 12:34
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
One more thing, as I am a bit interested in the techical side of the bans...
I assume it's IP based. And if so, isn't it just too easy to find a anonymous proxy and login with a different username?
Furthermore, if it's IP based and if an IP-range is banned, I'm wondering how it is handled when some people come from the same IP-range (e.g. Dafunk and I)?
2007-07-01 12:40
The Communist

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 485
IP Ranges ??? Either you are weird or i am too dumb to understand you. Not the ip range or number got banned but the login of Baracuda. So no need of anonymous proxys.
2007-07-01 12:50
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: IP Ranges ??? Either you are weird or i am too dumb to understand you. Not the ip range or number got banned but the login of Baracuda. So no need of anonymous proxys.

Well I don't know at all, that's why I'm asking. I recall someone mentioning the IP-ban in an older thread but it might be I'm wrong or don't remember right...
So if only the account is closed, what holds back a banned person from opening another user and continue with the trolling?
 
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