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2008-01-25 20:33
d0c

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Paul Norman did Forbidden Forest?

Paul Norman

Paul Norman did Forbidden Forest why aint he given credit for this?... was he a scener?...
2008-01-25 20:37
assiduous
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no he wasnt a scener and forbidden forest was a commercial release
2008-01-25 20:38
chatGPZ

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looks like an entry that is subject to deletion. i dont know any scene productions done by him atleast.
2008-01-25 20:43
assiduous
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But he was credited in a lot of scene releases so he shouldnt be deleted because the credits wouldn't be complete anymore.
2008-01-25 20:49
chatGPZ

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lots of credits arent complete for the same reason. (then again, we are mostly talking about ripped music here). you may call it a database flaw. not really a problem for musicians though, since the info can be added: add the proper sid to the entry, and the info wont get lost :)

BUT, in this specific case... he actually did contribute something to a scene production (the c64.com demo), which by the rules of csdb qualify him for having a profile :)

however that said, he should not be credited for "code" in a forbidden forest entry (because the credits should refer to who made the crack).
2008-01-25 21:02
assiduous
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well I see an inconsistency here:

1. if a well known musician is credited in 1 scene release (for 1 word in a scroll text for example) and his ripped music is used in several other productions then he is credited everywhere and the credits are complete.

2. however,if he isn't credited in that 1 scene production then he isn't credited in any other atall and the credits are incomplete.

it makes no sense.

remove Paul Norman from the credits here: Paul Norman's Computerized Publishing Company
2008-01-25 21:18
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
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Right, I removed his credits from that crack. About the other thing: Just because someone has a "scener profile" doesn't mean he's a scener. At least to me that is. I feel it's perfectly ok to add non-sceners to make credits complete. Just my 2 c.
2008-01-25 21:24
assiduous
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how did you do that? you aint a moderator here. is there a flaw in the php code allowing to edit locked entries? if so please share the exploit with us.

and you're so right about the other thing.
2008-01-25 21:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:

1. if a well known musician is credited in 1 scene release (for 1 word in a scroll text for example) and his ripped music is used in several other productions then he is credited everywhere and the credits are complete.

2. however,if he isn't credited in that 1 scene production then he isn't credited in any other atall and the credits are incomplete.

it makes no sense.


its very easy:

- scener profiles are for sceners
- taking part in a scene production qualifies someone for beeing a scener

yes it may lead to the situation you describe above. like i said, call it a database flaw. the only alternative would be allowing a scener profile for everyone and his mother, which is far beyond the scope of csdb.

Quote:

About the other thing: Just because someone has a "scener profile" doesn't mean he's a scener. At least to me that is. I feel it's perfectly ok to add non-sceners to make credits complete. Just my 2 c.


please don't. this just isnt possible in a good way right now, and only leads to a lot of mess, like people adding companies as groups and similar nonsense.
2008-01-25 21:28
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
Quote:

how did you do that? you aint a moderator here. is there a flaw in the php code allowing to edit locked entries? if so please share the exploit with us.


some people who are known to be good boys(tm) may unlock entries.
2008-01-25 21:30
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Quote: how did you do that? you aint a moderator here. is there a flaw in the php code allowing to edit locked entries? if so please share the exploit with us.

and you're so right about the other thing.


Below the mods (FAR FAR below) are the 'trusted sceners' We lot are allowed to break into locked entries and clean up the mess. Some also call them "screenshot-upload-bots". Ask Mace. ;-)
 
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