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d0c
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 186 |
Paul Norman did Forbidden Forest?
Paul Norman
Paul Norman did Forbidden Forest why aint he given credit for this?... was he a scener?... |
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
why kicking when writing 5 words in a scroll text secures an eternal place in CSDB. as a fact I'm planning a demo which mothers of famous sceners would contribute to with some scroll text. we need more females in the scene,dont we. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
no, we need more decent productions. who gives a damn wether they are made by girls or boys? i certainly dont. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Sometimes I get the impression you interpret the db guidelines a little too strict, Groepaz. You're really starting to sound like a broken record on a quest to protect the holy grail CSDb from evil things and keep it 'pure'.
Nothing wrong about keeping a critic view, but please don't overdo. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
it's all about database integrity really. and rules are useless if they arent followed (and sometimes enforced). |
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
Quote:it's all about database integrity really
indeed,adding a scener profile for a person credited in a scene production would severely break it. god save the SQL.
by the way,you have mentioned:
Quote:"everyone who is credited in a scene release" might be one option, but the current rule is "everyone who participated in a scene release"
i would love to know the rules. but this one is nowhere to be found :-( who knows what another rule might be. please give me a link to the guidelines so i can know them all. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
Quote:
Commercial
Generally Groups, Companies and People with a pure commercial Background (like many Gamecoders) are not considered scene related and thus do not belong into the Database. Exceptions are those who do have a scene Background (like for example a lot of composers) that can be backed up by at least one scene release in the Database.
http://noname.c64.org/csdb/help.php?section=rules
and dont start nitpicking on wording and details that leave a bit of room for interpretation now. "backed up by a release" doesnt mean "some of his work has been ripped and used without him even knowing about it", but "he made it for the scene and released it to the scene". yes we should, and will, update those rules and make some stuff more clear, and give more examples. |
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assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
thank you for the link.
now the rules say:
Quote:Credits of Demo entries should refer to everyone involved in the production, including creators of ripped music or gfx.
please explain it to me how I can refer to someone who doesn't exist in the database. cluttering up user comments would be one option, any more nice ideas? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
thats one of the things that needs to be made more clear, and which indeed shows a problem in the current design of the database. (for example creators of ripped content should somehow be seperated from creators of original content, which isnt possible either right now). for now indeed, such kind of info is best put into the "trivia" or comments, so it wont get lost and can be merged into the database properly in the future. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
I know this is a difficult thing to figure out after so much time, to clean up CSDb, but here goes:
If, for instance, a musician created an exclusive tune for Demo A, he can be credited for this production for sure. But if he did not participate in the creation of Demo B, he should not be credited for this production, even if his music was re-used in some part.
It might be an idea to stratify the credits for each scener into Original and Referenced/Used releases.
For instance, musicians released their music once, either as a stand-alone tune, or exclusive for a production.
The Original credit would then be for the Tune and the Production.
So, when other sceners use the Original tune in another production, the musician should not be credited for this Production as the credit should remain only for the tune (Original).
A "Referenced" table could then list those instances/productions where the original releases have also been used.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
tunes should always be credited, no matter if they were originally made for a production or not... however such a flag is needed, yes. and it will come, maybe, sometime =P |
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