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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1926 |
Cleaned my download directory ...
Cracking in 2011? DRAMA!
Let us start with: YOU ALL SUCK!
Wtf is it that about nobody gives a flying shit on release quality? Are you people actually testing and putting _some_ time into releases lately?
While cracks which obviously received some more time are of nice quality I have also seen an incredible amount of things which could have been done better - regardless of the actual game quality.
It is ALLOWED and DESIRED to put loading pictures, musics and "one page hit space" docs onto the mainfile. Making SINGLE FILE releases.
Nowadays it is an absolute necessity to make all trainers selectable (including level skippers) and to check your crap on a simple NTSC x64 setup.
(And IMHO an added builtin levelskipper needs to disable hi-score saving.) Obvious spelling errors seem to be at the rise as well.
So, I hereby request deletion of:
(L)(SEU) Psykozone +D by Onslaught (2011)
(L)(SEU) Project Argus +PD by Onslaught (2011)
(L)(SSE) Mutilator + by Excess (2011)
(L)(SSE) Nyaaaah! - 15th Anniversary Edition + [seuck] by Excess (2011)
(U)(BDC) The Lost Caves 1-6 Collection +3D by Genesis Project (2011)
(U)(3DC) A Chance in Hell [3dck] by Dinasours (2011)
(U)(SEU) Stone Age Fighter Stone Age Fighter [SEUCK] by Dinasours (2011)
Cant remember - the reason for the rule I suppose:
(L)(SEU) Seuck Armageddon 1 by Wanderer and Crypt (2008)
Legend:
L=Locked
U=Unlocked
3DC=3D Construction Kit
BDC=Boulder Dash Construction
SEU=Seuck
SSE=Sideway Seuck
Will delete the unlocked entried on my own if people don't veto. Rant on any entries I missed to publicly ashame the release group a little more.
Moderation please take on the locked entries.
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Jon
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
But I thought this is a release database-- a medium in which interested parties archive past and present releases for the Commodore 64, for better or worse... not a release site.
A Chance in Hell was a "Games that Wasn't" entry for a time, I believe. It shouldn't even be on your kill list at all.
I vote veto.
They harm absolutely nothing being archived here and their presence perpetuates a sense of scene continuity. |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074 |
The CSDB release standard for cracks clearly states:
Quote:Games made with game makers such as SEUCK (Shoot Em Up Construction Kit), GAC (Graphic Adventure Creator), RDK (Racing Destruction Kit), etc. are NOT considered valid releases.
So there's really no argument there. |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
oh, levelup
totally useless discussion just got +1 |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925 |
Well, the staff have known about those SEUCK releases since early August.
I'm told by a little mouse that some of the former wares guys on the staff don't want to be involved in drama, so they don't delete the invalid releases.
If these releases aren't deleted then the gates are open to throw up anything here again. ;)
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Jon
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
Ah, rulebooks. Good for banging someone over the head with, but not much else.
Quote:If a crack is accepted at atleast (sic) two of the following sites, which have been "official" release sites for atleast (sic) a decade, it will ALWAYS be counted as a valid release on CSDb:
The Digital Dungeon - ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/
Banana Republic - ftp://ftp.elysium.pl/
Antidote - antidote.hopto.org:23 (telnet BBS)
As my interest in the "scene" is quite narrow, I don't frequent these places. Can anyone confirm whether or not any of Zero's "marked for death" releases have a presence on these sites?
J
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1926 |
@Slator: useless discussion? As far as I know you are one of the people quite often whining on having so little time. How can your crackers pride even make you touch one of these "programs"?
I was much more expecting phrases such as "but there is so much content added" and a discussion as where to draw the line.
However, it was annoying 20 years ago to even load up one of these game maker results and waste time with it - it still is. FTP Sites btw, accept about any C64 related content, so exceptions given in the rules should always apply, no?
And to what Moloch heard: I wish it would be like that - adding content of "legitimate" fake labels is pretty hard here!
IF you declare and redefine your major label a group of low lifes desperate for byte whoring releases no matter the content - no prob in adding. :)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
Magervalp said it all :)
Quote:some of the former wares guys on the staff don't want to be involved in drama, so they don't delete the invalid releases.
lets say, we are not actively trying to find out wether a release is valid. it is NOT as easy as "this is seuck, lets delete it", because the explicit exception to the rule already mentioned in this thread exists (it requires to check the relevant sites at least). we also dont want to delete things "behind the scenes" silently, hence the rules say:
Quote:if there is a release that you think should not be here because it violates said rules, use the "discuss this release" feature and post why it should be deleted and the moderators will then verify it and take care of it. telling the reason in public is important so the releasers know what they did wrong and what they should improve.
...and unless that happens, dont expect us to even consider looking at it.
as for the initial post, please make sure wether these releases qualify for the mentioned exception of the rule (quick check: if its on none of the ftp sites then it certainly does not). doing just that shows that just two are clear candidates:
Psykozone +D (TDD: yes BR: no)
Project Argus +PD (TDD: yes BR: no)
Mutilator + (TDD: yes BR: no)
Nyaaaah! - 15th Anniversary Edition + (TDD: no BR: no)
The Lost Caves 1-6 Collection +3D (TDD: yes, fix in incoming BR: no)
A Chance in Hell (TDD: yes BR: no)
Stone Age Fighter (TDD: yes BR: no)
Seuck Armageddon 1 (TDD: no BR: no)
...and as for the rest, it'll require checking antidote (have to find my notes with my password... i guess =P)
last not least, incase you spot a clearly invalid release (due to the rules, and not present on the majority of relevant sites), then after posting the above mentioned notice, you may safely delete it, too :)
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Angel of Death
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 211 |
*applauds*
"delete this or that" discussion solved in 7 replies without feces flying over the table.
Guess all of us guys are really growing up.
;)
(@groepaz: give me a hard time over this post if you have to but it is a serious compliment :)) |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
@c0: yes, useless discussion, as there are like 32768462874237846 other things that are more important to fix in this database than 7 releases of dunno 50k+ ?
please wipe out all the non-scenerelated homebrew crap too, then... in 2064 we can speak again about seuck, if we didn't die on downvoting, that is. Maybe ICS or Manik or some IDE-Guys uploaded re-cracks? please check...
3 persons met randomly at a busstation, what a nice sceneevent...
I don't like crap releases myself, and I would never do a kind of seuck game myself if it hasn't got something special. It is no drama, it is just populism.
rules are rules, so make it so....
and yes, WE ALL SUCK...
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359 |
Quote:please wipe out all the non-scenerelated homebrew crap too, then...
if it is not a valid release according to the rules, then the same applies as i already said about these seuck things: point them out, and they might get removed. unless you dont point them out: get lost.
Quote:Maybe ICS or Manik or some IDE-Guys uploaded re-cracks? please check...
please read the rules again. usually for those there is no reason to remove them at all.
Quote:3 persons met randomly at a busstation, what a nice sceneevent...
and again, point them out. alternatively: go whine somewhere else. |
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