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2023-07-18 20:16
DeeKay

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362
VSP = HSP and HSP (Linecrunching) = VSP

I don't know what scene genius decided that VERTICAL SCREEN POSITIONING should describe the effect of moving the screen HORIZONTALLY (and vice versa with HSP/Linecrunching) but it's been bugging me like forever... Isn't it about time we used the correct terminology?

Discuss! 8)

P.S: In Crest, we barely ever called it VSP and HSP, Crossbow just calls the effects "Wanker" (yes, seriously, from german "wanken", meaning to sway left & right - our english wasn't all that great back then!) and "Linecruncher"! ;-)
 
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2023-07-20 17:56
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 717
The guys who could code when i was a lamer called it "D011-pusher".. probably since you used $d011 to "push" the screen sideways.. :P.
2023-07-20 20:17
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2857
Quoting HCL
The guys who could code when i was a lamer called it "D011-pusher".. probably since you used $d011 to "push" the screen sideways.. :P.
Without the sideways bit i'd have assumed "D011 pusher" to mean FLD. =)
2023-07-20 20:41
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 717
Yeah.. it could pretty much go for anything d011-related.. :D
2023-07-20 23:00
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5032
if I was to name I would have named FLD screen tear up or STU :D it was exciting to see it is possible to tear distance between rows, from my perspective it does this :)
2023-07-21 09:32
Boogaloo

Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 21
When we (Exilon and I) made Bonanza, we called it simply "$d011-scroll". Actually, we still call it that. :-)
2023-07-24 07:19
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 647
Quote: For a long time i thought that VSP stands for 'Variable Screen Position'.

But it make also sense that VSP means 'Vertical Screen Position' and HSP 'Horizontal Screen Position' aka Linecrunshing.

Together, VSP + HSP = AGSP (Any Given Screen Position).

But anyway, great stuff!


I also used to use AGSP to refer to HSP+VSP.
2023-10-26 04:32
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 631
VSP was always Variable Screen Positioning to me, Linecrunching, and AGSP (any given screen position). FLD was flexible line distance, fli flexible line interpolation, FPP Flexible pixel positioning, also seen it called FPD, or flexible pixel display. Sprite crunching too.

I like wanker though, since all demos are wanking off. I'm with Crossbow on that one.
2023-10-26 11:03
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Whoever comes up with a routine gets to name it, no matter how stupid the name is. With some exceptions - Sodan called it "Multi Scrapper Screen Scroller," but the scene decided that it was better to just call it the TechTech effect.

Talking about "Wanker," that's what I knew VSP as in the old days as well. When I wrote an article for 64'er in 1992 about AGSP I also used the term Wanker, which they happily printed. Afterwards I wrote to them again with some other suggestions for articles, but never heard back for some reason. Later I realized what wanker meant and figured that the 64'er staff might also have realized it, and therefore deemed me untrustworthy for using naughty words. :-)
2023-10-27 00:02
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 631
Hah, that's pretty funny. Probably true too why they didn't take anymore articles from you.
2023-10-27 07:01
Monte Carlos

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351
Names are to confuse people. Get rid of names. ;)
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