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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Who invented sprite stretching?
The history of sideborder sprites or $D011 based effects is pretty much known, but what about sprite stretching? I tried to find out the first demo who used it and it is not as easy as it seems: All the early 1988 demos which I thought that they used sprite stretching used normal multiplexing like used in ESCOS for example (I am talking about these "rasterbars + huge spritescroll + samples parts).
The first demo I found which had real sprite stretching was "Cocktail" from Triad (Feb 1989). Any earlier examples? |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quote: thank you. Cocktail was missing in my list.
again, here is the short list of all essential VIC-II bugs
Border top&bottom :
11.10.1985 Flash / FCG - Intro
Sideborder :
xx.04.1986 TSI / 1001 - Border Letter I
FLD :
xx.10.1986 Mule / The Cream Crackers - Mega Jive
VSP :
30.10.1987 JCB / Meanteam - VSP&IK+
LineCrunch :
xx.11.1988 Exilon / MDT/Horizon - Bonanza
FLI :
xx.01.1989 Solomon / BeyondForce - Charlatan
FPP :
26.06.1989 Bones, Triangle 3532, Upfront - Random
Sprite stretching :
26.02.1989 Bob / Triad - Cocktail
Sprite crunching :
05.11.1989 Pernod / Fairlight - Rutig Banan
You mean this as a list of 'who was first?'?
Because I thought FLI was first done by... er... Blackmail? (can't remember)
But the demo was called 'Sophisticated'.
Can't find that in CSDB or c64.ch, though.
Other websites aren't reachable from where I am now... |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935 |
Quote: You mean this as a list of 'who was first?'?
Because I thought FLI was first done by... er... Blackmail? (can't remember)
But the demo was called 'Sophisticated'.
Can't find that in CSDB or c64.ch, though.
Other websites aren't reachable from where I am now...
Check : So-Phisticated
futher use pokefinder.org to find it on the ftp site.
Niels |
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QuasaR
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 145 |
IMHO Blackmail were the first with a real FLI picture. The technique itself was a little bit older then. |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Of course they were, no one has said anything else. But BF was first with the FLI-routine but used it to fake rastersplits instead. |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
for LINECRUNCHING I would give the credit to:
OMEGA MAN/TCS
Just look at Star Paws (Releasedate 18 July 1987)
The Title-Picture-Routine is the first kind of LINECRUNCHING I've ever seen. Before Star Paws he used a normal FLD and the LINECRUNCHING-Routine was improved later with better raster-effect and no flicker in the right border.
It has no compensate routine and definately looks like an accidently discovered effect BUT happened over 12 months earlier than the horizon routine.
I myself have first seen it in 1987 used on Centurions (Rular Game!) |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
for FPP I'm personally not sure who was first but definately
CREST made an FPP-Routine earlier:
Blow Job 3
the release date [20.04.1989] is to be seen on the screenshot!
(and that date is earlier than [26.06.1989]) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014 |
Should one differ a (simple) logo stretcher from a full blown FPP with truly selectable gfx lines per raster line or not?
The techniques are ofcourse almost the same but still... |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 440 |
@jackasser: are you kidding me?
fpp and stretching are complete the same technique! or do you want to count peas... should we credit paradize for the first $d011-based logo-rotator? its still the same technique...
we are talking about vic-effects, not different sinustable-based fillings of the $d018-values... but maybe i'm wrong? |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
...on the topic of "who did what effect first": I think the new C64 codebase wiki would be the right place for an article about world records and world firsts:
If someone feel like it. Please add stuff to the "wanted" article right here (just click the link to create the page):
http://wikholm.dyndns.org/~cswiki/doku.php?id=start#articles |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
don't the "16 sprite scroller" by Antony Crowther use stretching ? i think so. its from 1987 |
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