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mankeli
Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146 |
Release id #247799 : Bowhunter
"I can honestly say that all these pixels has been carefully selected" - Why say this when it obviously looks like it's not the case? |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
So I guess it never occured to you that perhaps some people will tend to not be too quick to disqualify themselves. I truly envy you, and I’m not being ironic. |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Relevant for this same discussion:
Nogard
Though I'd like to add to this: The Sarge is a bloody amazing artist. Newer pics 100% aren't wired, I know for sure. But.. if we are shaming people who haven't attributed sources for their pictures - particularly when entered into compos and won top positions - then we should also look in on ourselves. 2018 isn't that long ago - and the no-copy movement had already been a thing for at least 20 years.
As I say, though, The Sarge is brilliant... and I hope he'll speak to me after this.
Being honest, what I've really disliked about the whole anti-AI, anti-copy, anti-wire thing has been that the brutality of it at times. I think it first started in a really bad way with Trident. His artwork was, frankly, stunning. Yes, it needed attributions .. but we're the scene. We've often forgotten or just not cared to give that. We can improve if we want to .. but let's not stoop to effective bullying .. I felt after that that Trident's output slowed - which is a damned huge shame for the scene. |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Raistlin
Of course you meant Talent, not Trident. |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
those who wired and won compos in the past,are most likely throwing the most shit now .. funny.. |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quote: Quote:I think graphics compos work more or less this way.
If I wanted to go literal, I'd say demoscene graphics compos work exactly the opposite from the linked picture. Number of hours is the most significant, sometimes the only measure. The amount of hysterically weaved pixels is what usually counts. "Moar is better". Even AI / wired gfx sometimes get good grades, not because of their artistic value (they certainly can have that, it's just that I've never seen it) but because some people don't recognize them as AI/converts and think hours had been invested.
4gente, a member of the c64 scene since 2021 is explaining us the demo scene. \O/ |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Quote: @Raistlin
Of course you meant Talent, not Trident.
Oh yes, sorry! |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
Oh my god you’ve awakend the Pissmaker troll. |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275 |
Quoting 4gentEOh my god you’ve awakend the Pissmaker troll.
exactly what i expected from you. \O/ |
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The Sarge
Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 49 |
I guess you can find 1:1 copies from almost everyone. Especially the older stuff. 2018 this was not talked about much. Its just recently this has come to attention and it should!
I have made so many pictures and I honestly forgot about this one. But now I remember. Thanks for reminding me. I remember this being a 1:1 hand pixeled thing and its not a wire, but it's still a copy, so my bad.
This was probably the second image I made since my comeback, I didn't really know or understood the rules back then. This would never happen today and will never do in the future.
Im sorry. Hedning remove this from the Gubbdata 2018 results. I feel really bad now. :( |
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4gentE
Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285 |
@Peacemaker
Excuse me, but I don’t see how the span of my scene activity qualifies or disqualifies me from making casual observation of the obvious.
On the other hand, years of coding (or shouting profanities in conference calls) can’t bring you closer to understanding gfx or art, and it shows.
Again, you take time to stalk me, and try yourself at some kind of i dunno “dumb person’s doxxing attempt”. Last time, the conversation was somewhat heated, this time it was just a casual talk. |
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