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2007-04-10 01:11
Moloch

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Group id #4751 : Cincinnati Commodore Computer Club

This is a user group and _not_ a scene group... why is there an entry for it here?
 
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2007-04-10 22:34
BAR.
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these guys qualified...

Check their site, read six words and check six release..

They do these year a demo compo, join in..
Or start to play Artillery Duel and you can win C64 Hardware..
Don't forget to buy a T-shirt. :)

Sorry could not add the cover CMN did because Nafcom told me
not to do anything for this CSDB again..


2007-04-11 02:12
Six

Registered: Apr 2002
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"Appears I'll have to dig out an old issue of Computes Gazette and start adding ~1000 user groups to CSDb - because they're all scene groups now!"

All of those user groups had sceners in them? Actively supported scene-related activities in the almost extinct US Commodore scene? All "~1000" of them published papermags that routinely covered scene activities and productions? All of those "~1000" user groups recruited sceners to produce intros and loaders for them?

Clearly this is the same thing.

And it's also 1987.
2007-04-11 05:24
BAR.
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don't be shy...
2007-04-11 05:43
BAR.
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A Party Report would be nice..
Would be intresting to read about the guests and what's up with people like these:

Attendants C4
Elwix, Jeri, Jim Brain, Pegasus, Schema, Six

Greetings,
Baracuda
2007-04-11 06:23
fade
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Quote: A Party Report would be nice..
Would be intresting to read about the guests and what's up with people like these:

Attendants C4
Elwix, Jeri, Jim Brain, Pegasus, Schema, Six

Greetings,
Baracuda


You're a fish.
2007-04-11 06:34
null
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I'm waiting untill the HCC Commodore User Group is added... because although most of them are 'bearded GEOS users' (no offence), there are also some sceners coming to the meetings... like Scout, Sander, Mace, to name a few.

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2007-04-11 09:21
BAR.
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Fade: You're boring

...Uh ist mir fade

Knoeki start adding all you want here or do you need others to do the job ?
2007-04-11 10:46
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
I don't know what's the big fuss about it, really. At first I'd rather like to see all of the fake groups getting deleted from the database. I see much less harm of adding an okayish release which a computer group made under its own label than those utterly annoying SEUCK game cracks, ugly Basic demos, demo maker intros and their creators. And they're all being tolerated for some reasons.
Nevertheless, CCCC probably won't list all of their members here neither, only those who contributed to the scene. Sorry but this whole thread seems to me as nit-picking, nothing more.
2007-04-11 11:22
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
I repeat - CCCC is NOT A SCENE GROUP! Neither is the other usergroups. I don't care what they do and how much they speak about sceneproductions in their papermags as long as they don't actively are partaking in the scene. I'm glad that CCCC are doing what they're doing, but they DOESN'T BELONG IN THIS DATABASE. What is goddamn wrong with you people? Read the above statement by me one more time and tell me why the heck they belong here?

"Hmm, many sceners work at Nokia and participate in their get togethers. They have even mentioned that they discuss oldtime computers and scene-demos there. And they have written about it in their internal magazine aswell! Oh, Nokia belong here... Let's see, I shall add Jorma Ollila as organizer, Aleksi Eeben as a musician and Tao as a hardware guru!"
2007-04-11 12:47
Jon
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Jailbird wrote: "I see much less harm of adding an okayish release which a computer group made under its own label than those utterly annoying SEUCK game cracks, ugly Basic demos, demo maker intros and their creators. And they're all being tolerated for some reasons. "

My guess would be... because they are all part of scene history?

Your comments got me thinking... what is the mission statement of this site, and what is the primary goal and function?

Is it to chronicle the the scene, past and present? Or is it merely a platform for neosceners to release their stuff? If it's the former, why WOULDN'T "annoying SEUCK game cracks, ugly Basic demos, demo maker intros and their creators" be "tolerated"?

What about swap crews that didn't release anything? Should their entries be "tolerated"? What about old outdated phreak tools, scene released term programs and copy tools (Phoneman and Arts Backup, for example). Do they belong here?

So I guess what I am asking is: is the CSDb meant to be an encyclopedia of sceners past, present and future, or is it meant to be a gathering place for modern sceners who are currently releasing software? Or is it both?

If someone could kindly clear this up for me, I'd appreciate it.

-Ninj
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