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2018-01-22 23:35
PAL

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 310
Vice sux these days...

....I am just a lamer so bear with me... music halts, no real frame-rate - full 50 halts now, set settings resetting to no true drive.... a big chunky graphics overlay when looking at demos in full-screen... WHY IS VICE EMULATOR SUDDENLY SHITTY TO THE POINT ONE DO NOT WANT TO USE IT ANY MORE?

It was so stable and perfect before last update... what went wrong? There are so many issues now... all things bugs in all demos and playback...

Will there be a fix it all for people like me that just happen to have a greatest ASUS laptop where everything used to work but now are just total lame in every aspect and can not get it to play right, I ask because last version worked like a charm... So utterly lame update to the latest version.

Maybe it is just me... wait, our coders and everyone have same bugs... such a terrible update... if there are some special setting to be set why do not make them the same as last version? that worked all the time with all demos?
 
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2018-01-23 19:21
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
2018-01-23 19:57
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5127
looks like you cheated, your desktop is taller than wider. :) my max res is 1366x768, which can not host that menu without scrolling it.

that treeview mode looks cool, is that the linux version ? would like to have something like that for win.
2018-01-23 21:26
Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228
Quoting JackAsser
Also on MacOS High Sierra alot of applicaitons suddenly gets jerky motion, including Vice and my own apps that previously where perfectly frame synced. I wonder what the hell Apple did to fuck up the system to that point... :(


The vanilla versions of vice3.1 SDL and COCOA work just fine on my mac mini 2011 with macos high sierra. I can even run two windows next to eachother without any glitches or jerky motion.

Make sure you throw out all of your old settings.
2018-01-23 22:47
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523
oswald: its the GTK3 version running on windows 7
2018-01-23 23:23
Tim

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 469
hmm,

I have several other versions (testing and such for other groupmembers) on my machines..

That said, Vice 2.4 on windows 7 (w32) is still my absolute and undisputed favorite.
2018-01-24 05:05
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1051
Had a few days recently where everything slowed down on Linux, then got almost back to normal. I Also suspect Meltdown/Spectre patches. I hope it's that, and not an attack. :)
2018-01-24 08:24
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 3098
Quoting Oswald
is that the linux version ? would like to have something like that for win.
Who in their right mind would want a Linux desktop looking like Windows, and then the fugly classic look? :D
2018-01-24 08:34
Zirias
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Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 48
I have a strange problem with VICE 3.1 on Win10 only, works as I expect on Linux -- as my real hw is disabled atm, I have no real reference ...

Working on some code doing Raster-IRQ stuff with BASIC running, and CIA IRQ disabled so it doesn't mess with the timing (instead, one VIC IRQ per frame is dispatched to EA31). This crashed after breaking from a LOAD command and I found out the Kernal re-enables CIA IRQs in this case. To solve this, I start every ISR with a JSR to this code:
checkirq:
		lda	$d019
		bpl	resetcia
		and	#$f
		sta	$d019
		rts
resetcia:	lda	#$7f
		sta	$dc0d
		pla
		pla
		jmp	$ea7e
so a IRQ that doesn't come from the VIC directly re-disables the CIA IRQ and exits. When I try this in VICE 3.1 on Win10, after this routine, no IRQs are triggered any more although there were no writes to D01A and the vectors are intact :o (while it's fine with the same VICE version on linux) -- my fault or a bug in VICE?

If needed, I can create and share a small PRG that exhibits this behavior.
2018-01-24 09:52
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2038
Quote: Quoting JackAsser
Also on MacOS High Sierra alot of applicaitons suddenly gets jerky motion, including Vice and my own apps that previously where perfectly frame synced. I wonder what the hell Apple did to fuck up the system to that point... :(


The vanilla versions of vice3.1 SDL and COCOA work just fine on my mac mini 2011 with macos high sierra. I can even run two windows next to eachother without any glitches or jerky motion.

Make sure you throw out all of your old settings.


I'll try that, thanks!
2018-01-24 09:55
Zirias
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 48
Quoting Zirias
If needed, I can create and share a small PRG that exhibits this behavior.

Trying to do this, the most simple code *doesn't* bug in VICE 3.1 on Win10 either, so it might be indeed a problem in my code, investigating this further. Still strange VICE behaves differently in the Linux version (in a 100% reproducible way)

Update: found the culprit. The kernal also potentially destroys RST8 for the IRQ condition here:
FC95   AD 11 D0   LDA $D011
FC98   09 10      ORA #$10
FC9A   8D 11 D0   STA $D011
I had all my IRQs in rasterlines with bit 8 cleared, so if this happens at a lower raster line, the machine freezes. Easily fixed now. I'm still wondering why this *always* happened on Win10 and *never* on Linux :o
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