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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
downvoting
howdy sceners,
i dont know if this was discussed before, but i am worried about this topic for a while now.
downvoting seems to be a real pleasure for some beings. but it doesnt make sense at all and falsfied the statistics. i know, there`s no accounting about taste. but is there any reason, for e.g., voting that less for maniacs of noise? just have a closer look to their stats! 4 votes, yet, with only 1 and 2 given points are really a joke to me!! surely for others too. this applies also for alot of other pretty cool productions.
however, maybe this rubbish may be stopped by changing the vote rules!?
some things that crossed my mind...
voting less then 5 points shouldnt be possible with an hidden pseudonym. the "TOP" categories should be separated by the release of year. an all time favourite list for each category can co-exist for sure :-)
i personally think that it does not make sense comparing demos from 2008 with demos from 1998 oder 1988.
Voting less then 5 points should be stated with a comment. week-minded comments and/or votes should be deleted by the admins.
there are for sure many other things that could be changed for a fair ranking and voting system. maybe i am absolutely wrong or just getting old (or both).
however, just post your ideas and comments. i am really curious ...
peace and keep on rockin` |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11296 |
rules for voting? that sounds very crazy to me =)
and ofcourse, there is already some weighting going on - however, the major problem (by far) is the number of actual votes. if something has a few hundred votes, "downvotes" will have no real affect on the result. on the other hand, if something only has a handful of votes, the result ist almost random even without downvoting =) |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
Hmm, well, it's not just downvoting, it's the whole package,like upvoting, no voting etc that quite obviously make the vote system a joke. Example: some people just give no less than 9 or 10 to friends (even if a release sucks), so silly and transparent ;).
But this topic has been discussed many times, and it has not been changed, so just ignore the votes.
I for one simply judge a release by what I think of it, and do not take into account who dunnit. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11296 |
Quote:Hmm, well, it's not just downvoting, it's the whole package,like upvoting, no voting etc that quite obviously make the vote system a joke. Example: some people just give no less than 9 or 10 to friends (even if a release sucks), so silly and transparent ;).
yes but, if enough votes are given, than this kinda stuff is statistically irrelevant. and if not, then the results are statistically irrelevant alltogether =D
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
This discussion is irrelevant alltogether. |
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Mr. Mouse
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 235 |
@Groepaz: True :) And a lot of people don't vote, or just for some specific releases...There are still a large number of releases without even 5 votes. On the other hand, to get a valid unbiased score, though, 5 is not enough. I'd say 30 or more would be a good cut-off for more validly calculating a weighed average. But that's the statistician speaking.
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2916 |
democracy? haha, yes, thats the scene...
*plop*
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5077 |
the problem is with the people not with the voting system. invent the spanish voting inquisition or smth. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11296 |
the problem is with the people not with the voting system.
indeed. the main problem are those people that can't understand that there aren't "right" or "wrong" votes, and that a half meaningful result could be calculated from less than a few hundred (or even thousend) sets of data :) |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 434 |
to get more votes is pretty easy! just make them all PUBLIC and those downvoting will get (down)votes for them/their stuff aswell :D democracy, ah well, nonsense :) |
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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 149 |
true... at least i wont take it to serious and dont care anymore... thanks for your comments and point of views...
but i still think it should be possible to make it more balanced. maybe the top 10 ranking should have one simple rule... they can be only reach the top when they get over 100 votes, so some imbecile downvotes haven't that big consequence for the rating. |
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