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wozza
Registered: May 2003
Posts: 18 |
Why bother doing a new release
For the past year I have been busy learning to code; yes I was a swapper and never had the time to learn, but now I can. I want to release something(~) and add back to the scene. I thought it would be great for a one-man show to thank some of the fine help here. The code would not the best, but certialy not the worst.
My question to everyone is: Why should I bother releasing an intro or little demo that would be old-skool, when I see the majority of user comments on releases shit-can everything? Would I get nailed because I'm a newbie coder? Or are there more mature minds here?
I need encourgement!
Wozza.
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
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Scout, this is a forum for discussions, not for your private emotional feelings, you are not the jesus or any other hitler to say who what have to do. Save your offtopic words for yourself.
Discussion is a form of exchanging personal opinions.
I have an opinion ventilated in that post, so discuss!
Furthermore, you familiar with Godwin's Law?
"You can tell when a USENET discussion is getting old when one of the participents [sic] drags out Hitler and the Nazis."
Just replace usenet with csdb. |
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Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230 |
Quick, close the thread! People are disagreeing and comparing each other to nazis! OMG! Lemon the site! Quick! |
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Yodelking
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189 |
As I'm not a very skilled coder, I don't appreciate those hard-coded effects, as I have no idea what is hard to create. I judge by design and feeling of a demo. Many of the newer demos are really boring. Being a bad coder at a party is rather fun when watching the demo-compo... When people start screaming "WHHHOOOOOO" at the effect, I know they are hard to create. ;)
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
Now this Thread is getting somewhere..
Never ever believe any Comments made via internet.
Try to work hard on your Demo, and PLEASE release it at a Party, you'll get immediate Feedback, and if nobody likes your Stuff, you can drink a Beer and ask the People what the disliked.
If you are American, you have to visit Europe (NO, IRAQ IS NOT IN EUROPE!)
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360 |
crap remains crap, released by a newbie or not.
that said, by all means, code something and release it. BUT dont let yourself put down by anyone stating the obvious (ITS CRAP!). even the shiniest top-10 coders produced alot of crap when they were practising, and some of them still do and win compos with it :=D
just go ahead, the scene really needs more coders! |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 462 |
"If you are American, you have to visit Europe (NO, IRAQ IS NOT IN EUROPE!)"
Calm down, dude. |
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Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512 |
Yeah,go ahead Wozza and don´t worry about the comments already,that will only be counter-productive.
I am not much of a coder and have not much time to improve myself aswell.
The trick for a beginner might be to come up with some story or nice design,creating some flow.
I always liked demos from Pretzel Logic a lot,eventhough most was not extremely hard to code.
Hopefully your graphics are decent,it helps. ;) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
I'm actually suprised that there are ppl out there learning how to code, and they say they have noone to ask!
hey you all:
You can anytime start a topic here in the coding sections and believe me coders will love to help you, all these topics turn into a show off, that who can come up with the best solution to your problem.
Pop into #c-64, and just drop a line with your question, or msg me straight, coders will like to help you out ! Sharing knowledge is fun ! |
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Wanderer
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Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 478 |
Quote: crap remains crap, released by a newbie or not.
that said, by all means, code something and release it. BUT dont let yourself put down by anyone stating the obvious (ITS CRAP!). even the shiniest top-10 coders produced alot of crap when they were practising, and some of them still do and win compos with it :=D
just go ahead, the scene really needs more coders!
Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. Future Crew's "Yo!" is an example of how you begin small and grow large.
Looking back at some of the 80's demos, they consisted of rasters upon rasters and nothing more. It's all about progress. Come on, you cannot expect anybody JUST STARTING OUT to be able to create plasma, bobs and a nice 64 sprite multi-plexer.
You start small, and grow large. Once again, remember Doctor Video's release last year - a beginning coder surrounded by support from the scene. Sure we could critique new releases and say, "A nice simple raster bar and 8 sprites but you didn't beat my 128 multiplexer, ESCOS picture and 12 DYCP scrollers".... blah....
Programming is beautiful. Unlike cracking, swapping or importing, you actually create. You take an idea and make something virtual out of it. The same goes for graphic artists. Even if you can only make a single scroll, you've made it - it's yours - you can be proud of it - and it will live on in the c64 history.
There is so much support here you can tap into and as Oswald has said, coders are always willing to help. Once you've mastered that simple scroller, you'll look back and be proud - even if others disregard the accomplishment. Then move up, move on, and grow :) |
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