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2010-09-11 15:20
MC
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music-assembler

Any of you ever used it?

I am partly responsible for its existence.

Together with OPM who lived next door from me at the time (we lost contact) we decided after ripping lots of game tunes by Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway that we could do better technically.

We created a player routine which could play good sounding music based on tracks, sequences and presets (like hubbard's routine) minimizing RAM usage but without having big peaks in rasterline usage. The trick was working around the waiting stuff that had to be done with the SID or otherwise it wouldn't trigger. We accomplished this by having the player think ahead and make decisions for the next time the interrupt would be triggered. This routine would later become the music-assembler player code. The rest is history.

The two of us created the player routine, OPM was responsible for the track editor and I did the sequence and preset editors. We contacted Markt+Technik who also published some magazines in Germany and we had a publishing deal. They sold quite a large number of copies to my surprise at the time. I think I was about 17 years old or something back then.

I've read there were later 'updated' versions of our 1.0 release by Triad. Can anyone tell me what they changed/improved? I haven't seen a C64 in decades.

Cheers,

Marco Swagerman a.k.a. MC/DusaT
 
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2010-09-13 09:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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Can't see there's any disagreement, assuming the dog excuse is stated with the expectancy of being believed. ;-)

but the dog excuse is usually used by those who wanted to "have their homework eaten" :) (i might be naiv enough to believe noone uses the disk crash excuse for simply not having done anything. what remains is the stupidity of not doing backups)
2010-09-13 13:50
Perplex

Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 255
Quoting Oswald
ah, good to know that p1 and all my other stuff is "the dog ate my homework", really.


What, you lost all the source code in a disk crash and didn't have any backup? Or were you just lucky enough not to have a disk crash before the final versions were released?
2010-09-13 20:02
SIDWAVE
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Quote: Quoting Oswald
ah, good to know that p1 and all my other stuff is "the dog ate my homework", really.


What, you lost all the source code in a disk crash and didn't have any backup? Or were you just lucky enough not to have a disk crash before the final versions were released?


whats the problem ?
surely there must be re-assemblers for pc...


and about my homework eaten by the dog theory, well i can just say i am oldskool. i dont use or have knowledge how to use such things as cvs and all that.

i always kept it very simple with a cli assembler and 1 file with the whole program in it.

a guy like me, i tried 3 times in all, i couldnt compile the richard joseph demo, because its 100s of files and paths, and i couldnt get my pc to find the paths nomatter what i tried.

surely i could have added the 3 last tunes, linked the intro on and some minor things, but when i cant even get the shit to compile, im lost.

"compile mydemo.s" --> gives prg/exe file, now thats what i prefer!

i know this is dinosaur tech, but it works every time.

2010-09-14 04:07
chatGPZ

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and ofcourse that has everything to do with beeing stupid enough to not have backups =)
2010-09-14 05:40
SIDWAVE
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Patronizing users and calling yourself a moderator, how useless.

You should man up and resign this post, coz your not fit for it.
2010-09-14 06:15
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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lol, ofcourse. a good moderator in this case would pet you on the back saying "well done boy! you lost all your data! backups are for newschool lamers!".
2010-09-14 06:28
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
well, jan has definitly right in this case, you're constantly stirring the shit. thats not something a mod should do on the forums.
2010-09-14 06:48
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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anyone complaining about mods stirring the shit and at the same time calling himself oldschool should go stand in the corner really. compared to what would happen to those guys on an actual good old bbs anything happening here is asspetting friendly. and if you dont like someone stirring your shit, just dont poop it into the forum.
2010-09-14 06:52
Devia

Registered: Oct 2004
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this is getting tiresome... If you really can't find any other counter arguments than "uh.. you're a moderator, your not supposed to say that", then STFU. Regardless of who is right or wrong or even who provokes who, that really is a lame argument.
2010-09-14 06:59
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
somehow i get the feeling that every time someone has to pull this "argument" .... he doesn't have any others left.

next time a discussion goes offtopic like this i might simply delete everyones offtopic posts. and if they then complain, they can go fuck themselves.
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