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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Release id #88319 : Robin of the Wood
REQUEST DELETION.
1 Block Basic Loaders represent no release. Original ABC release untouched - no re-crack - double upload - local lamer print line additions to show they owned a c64. What else you need?
l8r
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
yes ofcourse, but something made with an intromaker atleast has an intro, and mostly also involves linking it infront of some release. this shit is high quality stuff compared to a basic line that loads someone elses crack =P |
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
Unfortunately, there is no specific rule that bars that sort of entry, Groepaz. If someone released something like that TODAY, I would agree (crack rules and all that). However, uploading that release here lends documentation and history to a group that was:
A: Clearly active on the scene.
B: Clearly spread their releases.
Just saying.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
in our small hometown (~10000 people) alone there were about 20 such "groups". but i doubt anyone would have ever considered them part of the scene, except themselves ofcourse =P
but indeed, it looks like (again) we need some specific rule. (although imho the existing "By our definition a "crack" in the Database is a Program which has been somehow modified (which preferably adds some value over the Original) and then released to the Scene." makes it clear already. the abc crack in question was not modified in any way, its not even a recrack, as c0 pointed out in the original post) |
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
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I understand. The rules should be adjusted as such in order to clarify any gray areas as the situations arise.
I just hope that any clarification doesn't lead to a massive purge of the Db in order comply with new guidelines. Frankly, I really like the "local lamer" stuff as it really adds context to a "scene" that wasn't always visible from the top down as it were.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386 |
Quote:I just hope that any clarification doesn't lead to a massive purge of the Db in order comply with new guidelines.
as there, as said before, really isnt much of that kind of junk in the database, that wont happen. |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Quote: I suppose it's all moot now. Someone took it upon themselves to delete the entry. :p
Guess who - the interesting part: already about 3 days ago.
l8r
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
You could have saved yourself all the drama and just deleted it instead of creating this thread.
An aside- Why the sudden interest in what is and isn't worthy of the CSDb?
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1932 |
Actually I wanted to see who is jumping on a bandwaggon to rescue this upload, defend crap in general - it was clear within the second to delete it overall. I somehow lost the bet though - someone is missing on the comment line. :)
To answer your question - which is none of your business to be honest: I am always active on one or the other c64 related project. Sometimes more related to cracks, often less related. It's mainly a matter of time I care to spend on yet another senseless debate with people who apparently define "scene" as include("found 10 minutes between dad and older brother on the c64 and copied this disk!"-schoolyard gangsters).
(Yeye, that 4x4 esi intro ripoff is just the same thing but it definately has its funny parts.)
l8r
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Jon
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 247 |
That's fine. It certainly is none of my business. But you could have answered politely. Senseless debate indeed.
However, I find it sad that an individual who has added only two items to the entirety of the CSDb has more authority than those of us who have stored these releases for 20+ years on floppy media, transferred the releases over to the PC, read endless stretches of scroll text, and categorised and chronicled them for the Db (which includes adding groups, sceners, the release entry, the D64 image, a screen shot, BBSes, etc etc.
Again, just sayin'.
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tnu
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Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 42 |
Quote:However, I find it sad that an individual who has added only two items to the entirety of the CSDb has more authority than those of us who have stored these releases for 20+ years on floppy media, transferred the releases over to the PC, read endless stretches of scroll text, and categorised and chronicled them for the Db (which includes adding groups, sceners, the release entry, the D64 image, a screen shot, BBSes, etc etc.
...exactly what i was aiming at earlier....wise words from ninjasbane again.. |
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