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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Why is editing/deleting old comments enabled?
Noticed a few times when deletion/editing of old comments resulted quite funny/annoying/baffling comment-threads.
Is there a special reason for this being enabled? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
hein: thats exactly my argument too. if you changed your opinion, just say so. there is nothing wrong with it. quite the contrary, it could even be quite interisting to see how and why people changed their view on a certain release over time. |
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wreg
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 679 |
to me, the comments are there to enable me getting a few user-judgements about a release without having to read endless discussions
that is why we have seperate areas to either leave a single comment or discuss the release... |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: can you give a recent example where it all went wrong?
There you go. Actually I am also guilty for the discussion going too far but my gentle little soul got quite upset. :) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: the windows vs linux crap in the project one entry is a good example (although a good bunch of "bad" comments have been removed there already, so you probably cant really see all the mess). also the attacks on vanja in one of her recent pictures.
however, IMHO the biggest problem is that "letting users delete/edit previous comments" and "general discussing in comments as if it'd be a forum thread" don't go together well. or at all :) it'd be much less of a mess when it'd be a regular thread.
thanks, I hope there are dozens more examples from the last 12 months, otherwise I don't really see why we are discussing this ;)
just checked the P1 comments and it looks like it was properly cleaned (getting rid of offtopic bullshit is not the same as censorship btw;)
anyway, I actually dont really mind of the edit/delete comment functionality is disabled, but only if there are problems with serious abuse at least once a month ;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Quote:
getting rid of offtopic bullshit is not the same as censorship btw
good to hear =P
i think part of the problem is how comments are presented. right now there is little difference between a forum thread and the comments, which not surprisingly leads to comments beeing used similar. one way to transform comments more into something like wreg said (and i think so too) could be to only display one comment at a time, randomly. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting Groepazone way to transform comments more into something like wreg said (and i think so too) could be to only display one comment at a time, randomly.
Or what about displaying ALL comments in random order? That would be an awesome experience in some cases! :D |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1085 |
Quote: There you go. Actually I am also guilty for the discussion going too far but my gentle little soul got quite upset. :)
well, we're only human after all ;)
Quote:i think part of the problem is how comments are presented. right now there is little difference between a forum thread and the comments, which not surprisingly leads to comments beeing used similar. one way to transform comments more into something like wreg said (and i think so too) could be to only display one comment at a time, randomly.
as long as there's a view all comments button as well ;)
also, if this gets implemented, I would like to pull the releasethread from the forum a bit closer to the release, by for example showing the initial post of the thread (or the first 10 words of the post) at the bottom of the releasepage.
I agree that part of the problem is indeed presentation at the moment. Even though I still don't really think there's a real problem. |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
Quote: hein: thats exactly my argument too. if you changed your opinion, just say so. there is nothing wrong with it. quite the contrary, it could even be quite interisting to see how and why people changed their view on a certain release over time.
I'll second that opinion. editing previous statements, especially after seeing 20 replies to a remark is annoying as hell, not to mention confusing.
I thought the same for closed/removed threads too, but changed my mind on that after reading some words from Creamd and Groepaz in the past and have to admit it simply calms down most of the stressheads on this database ;)
So there.. I rarely change my mind, being an arrogant and stubborn ass, but when I do myself I'll simply state it. (besides I cant be bothered to find the thread I bitched about closing threads either.. hehe)
Leave change it to edit open until someone posted a comment after your comment, that should leave enough room to remove typohs etc. and add changes can be added in a new comment.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352 |
Quote:
Or what about displaying ALL comments in random order? That would be an awesome experience in some cases! :D
i'd rather see that feature for forum threads. extreme discussing ftw! =D |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
A specific example:
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