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2007-03-19 22:37
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
Votes

Why do some of you hide your votes? HMM? this makes no sense. And stop downvoting people just because you do not like them.

This database is supposed to be accurate, not a place for you to continue with your stupid grudges and scene wars.

a note to perff: since Secret Man, WDR etc have been deleted from this, I think you should also remove all their votes.

and get rid of this hidden voting, if people cannot publicy stand by their vote choices, then they shouldn't be voting at all.



 
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2007-03-23 12:43
stash
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 343
Quote: If there would have been public voting from the beginning, i would have not voted.

If you want public votes, goto pouet.


but i wanna see who u downvote :)
2007-03-23 12:45
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052
Quote: If there would have been public voting from the beginning, i would have not voted.

If you want public votes, goto pouet.


I don't want to argue. I just tell you that I wouldn't care if your reason not to vote was that your votes wouldn't be hidden. ;-) As for "go pouet" is concerned. Why do you think I need this kind of advices? ;-) I'm not emotionally blackmailing perff about anything I just try (for years) to persuade him to make this database completely transparent.
2007-03-23 12:47
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
sorry creamd, wasnt meant personally.
i just wanted to point out, that public voting (like on pouet) might provoke all kind of unwanted behaviour..
2007-03-23 12:50
Bamu®
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Registered: May 2005
Posts: 1332
Quote:
provoke all kind of unwanted behaviour..


Well, I guess we already have this "unwanted behaviour" just becuase the votes are hidden.
2007-03-23 12:54
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052
Quote: sorry creamd, wasnt meant personally.
i just wanted to point out, that public voting (like on pouet) might provoke all kind of unwanted behaviour..


I understand the point about possible complaints in PM, but it's much better than now when there is possibility to downvote persons's releases just out of hatred and not be spotted by anyone except admins. Admins can't watch everything. I think we can both agree that manipulative voting is an unvanted thing.
2007-03-23 12:59
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
I think the only way of making downvoting irrelevant is to have many, many votes. And making the votes public wont give you more votes, more the opposite.

PS: I think downvoting was/is/will always (be) there.
2007-03-23 13:06
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052
Quote: I think the only way of making downvoting irrelevant is to have many, many votes. And making the votes public wont give you more votes, more the opposite.

PS: I think downvoting was/is/will always (be) there.


This is also Perff's argument. It's partially acceptable, but that won't get rid us of manipulative voting and making of fake accounts. If voting was public you could ask.. who is that "butazomba" , "dork123"? etc? (the names are invented)

P.S. I think that only real, identifiable persons/sceners should be allowed to vote. Not someone with fake-name.
2007-03-23 13:24
maestro

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 727
why do we keep going over this subject aswell???

how are we going to ever get a voting system that will work when everyone has different ideas about how good something is???

why do we need a voting system anyway??? why dont we just allow comments to what ever instead of voting???

i mean who cares now anyways about votes???

unless someone can come up with a better fairer system than the one we have i dont think we should even discuss this subject because it will always highlight problems

ive personally never ever released anything for the c64 yes im a lamer but i would rather constructive criticism and general facts about what ive done than getting a 1 - 10 but more to the point i would be just happy with my own work full stop
2007-03-23 14:21
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598
Quoting maestro
"ive personally never ever released anything for the c64"


yes you did!
Fuzzball Preview +
;)
2007-03-23 18:02
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052
Quote: why do we keep going over this subject aswell???

how are we going to ever get a voting system that will work when everyone has different ideas about how good something is???

why do we need a voting system anyway??? why dont we just allow comments to what ever instead of voting???

i mean who cares now anyways about votes???

unless someone can come up with a better fairer system than the one we have i dont think we should even discuss this subject because it will always highlight problems

ive personally never ever released anything for the c64 yes im a lamer but i would rather constructive criticism and general facts about what ive done than getting a 1 - 10 but more to the point i would be just happy with my own work full stop


Discussing it is important, because as you see it's important for many people having different views on the same subject.

As for being satisfied with constructive criticism (comments) and removing "point system" I agree ;-). Doint it vice versa would be also good... ...e.g. rule/system that voter must provide comment/reasons together with his vote ;-)))
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