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2024-11-25 08:13
mankeli

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 146
Release id #247799 : Bowhunter

"I can honestly say that all these pixels has been carefully selected" - Why say this when it obviously looks like it's not the case?
 
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2024-11-26 16:27
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 275
Quoting 4gentE
Oh my god you’ve awakend the Pissmaker troll.


exactly what i expected from you. \O/
2024-11-26 16:28
The Sarge

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 49
I guess you can find 1:1 copies from almost everyone. Especially the older stuff. 2018 this was not talked about much. Its just recently this has come to attention and it should!
I have made so many pictures and I honestly forgot about this one. But now I remember. Thanks for reminding me. I remember this being a 1:1 hand pixeled thing and its not a wire, but it's still a copy, so my bad.

This was probably the second image I made since my comeback, I didn't really know or understood the rules back then. This would never happen today and will never do in the future.

Im sorry. Hedning remove this from the Gubbdata 2018 results. I feel really bad now. :(
2024-11-26 16:36
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
@Peacemaker
Excuse me, but I don’t see how the span of my scene activity qualifies or disqualifies me from making casual observation of the obvious.
On the other hand, years of coding (or shouting profanities in conference calls) can’t bring you closer to understanding gfx or art, and it shows.

Again, you take time to stalk me, and try yourself at some kind of i dunno “dumb person’s doxxing attempt”. Last time, the conversation was somewhat heated, this time it was just a casual talk.
2024-11-26 16:48
Marq

Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 50
Our old No Copy? gallery is still online in case you enjoy this kind of busting: http://kameli.net/nocopy/
2024-11-26 16:59
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4732
Quote: Our old No Copy? gallery is still online in case you enjoy this kind of busting: http://kameli.net/nocopy/

Last update: Apr 7 2002.

:(
2024-11-26 17:07
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Quote: I guess you can find 1:1 copies from almost everyone. Especially the older stuff. 2018 this was not talked about much. Its just recently this has come to attention and it should!
I have made so many pictures and I honestly forgot about this one. But now I remember. Thanks for reminding me. I remember this being a 1:1 hand pixeled thing and its not a wire, but it's still a copy, so my bad.

This was probably the second image I made since my comeback, I didn't really know or understood the rules back then. This would never happen today and will never do in the future.

Im sorry. Hedning remove this from the Gubbdata 2018 results. I feel really bad now. :(


Actually, this is the way of handling of the blame, that I expect from any creator. We are around our 50'ties. We should be able to react as decent adults. Trying to talk out of the responsibility and blaming others for bringing up our sins is ridiculous.

Admit the guilt. Take the shame with dignity and move on. I don't think that's too much to expect. :)
2024-11-26 17:09
Shine

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 369
All this "cheating" and converting with or without AI shows me personally only one thing:
The people who do this no longer pixeling for fun, which is very sad.
The reasons for this may be obvious. Especially in a competition, this is really bitter.
IMO using references is totally ok, if you put more effort into it compared to "Carefully Selected Pixels"!
My 3,14 cent.
2024-11-26 17:41
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Strangely enough, if it comes to music compos, covers are hardly ever sent in. Unless it's explicitly allowed or required in the compo rules, as for example with the current Yogi's & Flex' Melodic 2SID Compo 2024 or earlier events such as Game Music Remix Compo 2023.

An [insert theme here] image conversion compo would be good for some, maybe.
2024-11-26 17:49
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
Quote:
Strangely enough, if it comes to music compos, covers are hardly ever sent in.

My guess is it’s the “entrance fee”. Plagiarizing a song or making a cover SID is not so trivial. Converting a pic found on the internet and “carefully selecting pixels” is. Very trivial. Perhaps this will change when the LLM AI monster learns SID composing…
2024-11-26 17:54
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Quoting 4gentE
Quote:
Strangely enough, if it comes to music compos, covers are hardly ever sent in.

My guess is it’s the “entrance fee”. Plagiarizing a song or making a cover SID is not so trivial. Converting a pic found on the internet and “carefully selecting pixels” is. Very trivial. Perhaps this will change when the LLM AI monster learns SID composing…


Interesting idea. From experience, I find making a cover to be easier than doing an original composition. But who knows, maybe some people are already using AI to do the composition and then carefully tweak it in a SID editor.
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