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2003-09-16 10:18
deizi
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REAL THING or Emulator?

do you have/or use The Real Thing instead of an emulator? ...and what's your opinion about emulators? (they don't work properly). i'm not really using them anymore. because i have the real thing. :)
 
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2003-09-17 11:45
Dwangi

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130
I use emulators on my amiga500.
2003-09-17 11:47
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
perhaps the lack of flaming is because the narrowminded bigmouths arent active anymore
2003-09-17 13:46
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160
IMO emulators have to be used responsibly. Especially ADSR & filter are still way off, even in reSID. Therefore I compose either on real C64 or hardsid. Often things made on emulator/x-dev utils are just "automatically" better looking & sounding on the real machine, but there are things to watch out for..

About programming, there's no way I would subject myself to project build process on 1MHz machine, when size of source files is measured in megabytes - time is short anyway..
2003-09-17 15:32
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
I use VICE for development and for taking a quick look at new releases. My SuperCPU128 is used mainly for testing stuff before I release.
2003-09-17 17:21
drake
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but then, does it make ANY sense when everybody brings his laptop to a c64 party because it's a lot easier to take with you and because of the great emulator?

i admit, and with me a lot of ppl, that the emulator is a very handy tool...but i still prefer my c64 becuase it gives me 'that'feeling ;-)
2003-09-17 17:27
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048
Quote: but then, does it make ANY sense when everybody brings his laptop to a c64 party because it's a lot easier to take with you and because of the great emulator?

i admit, and with me a lot of ppl, that the emulator is a very handy tool...but i still prefer my c64 becuase it gives me 'that'feeling ;-)


It's easy.. bring C64 machines to C64 parties. Bring PC to PC parties. It works quite well.
2003-09-17 17:57
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Can I bring my laptop to the next party if I only use it as external harddisk via 64hdd? ;-)
2003-09-17 20:50
White Flame

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 136
Quote: One question : How to get the best out of an emulator (for example WinVice, that I use mostly)? I am mainly talking of the grafic-interface and would like to have a 100% emulation of interlace-pictures.

About the Sid-Emulation, I like using the emulator, as you can switch between the old ans the new sid. Using ReSid give you a nice emulation even it's not 100% quality, but I am optmistic and think there will be soon a ReSid-Engine which can emulate the Sid for 100%.

Arman


What I'd say for best emulator video results is to set your refresh rate to 50/60 or 100/120 hz, force vsync on if your drivers allow it in 2d modes, 640x400 fullscreen so you get more authentic non-square pixels, turn off "Double size", and obviously PAL emulation on. I've got my PC monitor next to my 1084s, and the images are the same size, color, and aspect ratio.
2003-09-17 21:22
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
A PAL C64 produces almost square pixels.
2003-09-18 00:30
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
I use the real thing for doing graphics, code and music. For me it just has to be a real c128d keyboard, an old Commodore monitor etc.
I just can't work in an emulator. I also prefer to watch demos and play games on the real thing.

I do use an emulator for grabbing screenshots and sometimes also to test if my code works on NTSC.
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