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2007-09-20 09:35
chatGPZ

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Release id #53316 : Ikari & Talent Intro

mmmh its somehow getting out of hand. intros that werent released like this (single file, without a crack attached) shouldn't get a seperate entry.
 
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2007-09-20 15:34
Rough
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I wouldnt delete 'my' intro entries, because it's much easier to add information when there is a "new solution" with the information shared in them instead of going through all the releases again.

And yes, crack entries should be linked somehow to the intro credits.
2007-09-20 15:45
chatGPZ

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i think you underestimate the amount of work involved to fix this kind of stuff. it could be quite a task to fix info for even one intro properly (which means locating all releases the intro was used on manually, and crosslink all the entries with it).

why not simply move the intros further down your todo list and add more regular cracks? much more efficient, imho.
2007-09-20 15:52
Rough
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Currently I'm going through cracks, but those I actually enter the intros from I have already added as cracks. ;) They are in some kinda A-Z order and I want to add intro credits as well into the database.

I don't underestimate the work, I just don't see why adding each info from the original release again should be less work.

After all, when browsing through the forums there are many discussions on how to do this and that, and sometimes the discussioners draw conclusions but nothing happens. Probably a lack of time of the database coder which I understand of course. Thumbs up for him anyhow.
2007-09-20 16:07
Dishy

Registered: Mar 2002
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I added this Vision intro some years ago:

Vision Intro 1992

It should probably be deleted then. :/ Right or wrong.. Ray/VSN did the code, Wave/VSN the graphics and Zeus/VSN the music. I think, these info belongs in here - and it´s nice, that these old intros are at CSDb too.

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2007-09-20 16:07
chatGPZ

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Quote:

sometimes the discussioners draw conclusions but nothing happens. Probably a lack of time of the database coder which I understand of course. Thumbs up for him anyhow.


thats the major problem yes
2007-09-20 17:01
Burglar

Registered: Dec 2004
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Quote: Quote:

sometimes the discussioners draw conclusions but nothing happens. Probably a lack of time of the database coder which I understand of course. Thumbs up for him anyhow.


thats the major problem yes


well, I offered my help a while ago, but didn't get a response.

so to me its pretty simple, perff doesn't have the time to add functionality to csdb and he doesn't want help either.
2007-09-20 18:14
wreg
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i offered my help as well, but he didnt want it
anyway i see small improvements from time to time
just bug him a bit more :-)
2007-09-21 07:50
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
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If we intend to keep adding these intro credits, posting a link from the cracks to the intro is imperative, at least for the obvious ones just added.

Re-adding the download for just the intro is redundant. Just put a comment pointing the user to one of the cracks having the intro.

IMO we don't want the same file routinely added twice.

Also trying to differ which "Intro" type releases was actually released as separate intros from those that are credit placeholder will be a nightmare later.

EDIT: A quick and dirty solution could be to have a new release type like "Intro (credits)".
EDIT2: And even better, also add the feature to add a list of pointers to releases from a release. (listing name and release type, with an optional comment)
All sorts of useful things could be done with these two.
e.g links to Intro credits, links to previous versions (i.e the cruncher that was hacked to create this one)

2007-09-21 08:05
Rough
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I agree, crack and intro should be merged, but how?

Besides it's quicker to add a small file download to an intro entry than adding a link. Furthermore it's a nice gimmick to see in which releases the certain intro was used.

I need a cigarette.
2007-09-21 08:09
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
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Yes, but without the link, finding that afterwards is very hard. You have information about that connection and that this is not a separate release, but it is not added into the DB.
Anyone searching to find that connection later when implementing support for such links won't see it.

The worst case scenario is that all C64 Intro type releases have to be reexamined to be determined if they really were separate releases, and also which crack they belong to.
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