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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Oldskool vs Newskool
It seems that some people are stuck in a fantasy that every single tune coming on the C64, must:
1. have beats like Jeroen Tel
2. have melody like drax
3. have sounds like rob hubbard
4. be crazy inspiring like ben daglish
5. and that it has to have the smoothes baby ass 1988 bass filter
6. and so on...
so what is oldskool ?
1986 sounds ?
or 'playing it safe' ?
and what is newskool ?
be a copy of linus ?
It seems there are some persons who dont realize that HVSC has about every style of music on earth in it.
You can find old classical piano tunes, mostly people made them before hubbard religion came :D
then hubbard religion came, and everybody want to follow it, the most prominent child of hubby is jt.
although different style... its still a hubbyism...
then 20cc, what is this ? a jt religion..
rock/finnish gold....
We can mention so many.
There are founders of religion, and followers, those make up more than 80% of the composers.
And then there are the innovators, who take a risk, and do something completely new, and weird, or non standard.
Ed, Goto80, Mermaid... that sort of thing..
So, to the point, and ofcourse it is about my latest sid upload :D what else would it be about ? :D
Well, i can claim to call it newskool, because of the fact, it does not follow any of the religions i just mentioned.
You dear listener, should not expect every single tune, to be a melodic, progressive, manio depressive gut wrenching tune comparable to the depths of drax's mind.
You are in error.
There is more than just drax'ism :D
Specifically i would call my tune 'industrial techno', its the closest i can come to some kinda description. and as such, it is extremely well in its own class.
As a 'standard' C64 style tune, based on the religions mentioned, it is ofcourse completely off.
To the final point:
I appreciate your comments whatever they are, but when you f.ex write: there isnt much progression, or i would wish there was more melody, then dear listener, you have misunderstood it: industrial techno has no progressive melodic element :D
What is oldskool : when you follow the traditions
what is newskool : when you dont
That is all.
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
That guy you keep on sending worktunes to so he can provide you with tips on how to improve them. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Yeah, some people think that every tune they do is AMAZING!
But it's really not like that at all...
I aim at doing music that is not annoying to listen and sometimes I manage to do something that I am quite pleased with.
For me sounds and how they are handled is quite important.
Forexample some people can make nice melodies and some just make something that I barely can stand listening to.
Sorry, but that's how it is.
I don't have much music theory knowledge, but just use my ears.
False notes are also totally unacceptable for me...
it's like.. "forget about it"... :-) |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Also, some people are stuck in fantasy that nomatter what they do, it's OH SO DAMN GOOD! :-) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Well, it's all in the eye of the beholder. Or in this case, the ear of the composer.
And it can take years to train a good set of ears. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting LinußThat guy you keep on sending worktunes to so he can provide you with tips on how to improve them. With very little achievement so far, it seems. |
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Pantaloon
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 124 |
and Danko, while you have free time sitting in the hotel room in London and writing on Csdb, start a new sid for the next demo :) |
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wacek
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 513 |
I have almost exactly the same approach as Jeff described - focus on sounds etc. :)
One exception - "making tunes that are not annoying" ;) My personal aim is to make music that I am satisfied with and fits my taste, sometimes at the price of the above mentioned ;) |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 639 |
Quote: Quoting LinußThat guy you keep on sending worktunes to so he can provide you with tips on how to improve them. With very little achievement so far, it seems.
Indeed.
What Wackee said. |
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Kristian
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126 |
Quoting wackeeI have almost exactly the same approach as Jeff described - focus on sounds etc. :)
For me it was always the total oposite. I was never any good at making instruments. I would rather focus on melodies and try to make it sound somewhat decent despite the lousy instruments. |
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NecroPolo
Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231 |
Good points considering inspiration and initial drive of different attitudes. Folks, it is really interesting to read your lines about your attitudes and associate with your SIDs. It really makes a sense.
For me, it is separated. If the music is connected to a certain release/product, it is most important to be coherent, a unit of the other parts/aspects. If melodic fits - be so, if SID bloodshed fits - be so. That is true for all the band stuff, too. "Performance" type of thing.
If I do music just for myself, it will be something that reflects an actual mood so most likely it will be something that I'd wish to listen to at the moment. "Jamming" type of thing. |
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