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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Tags (yet again)
It is still unbeknownst to me why tags weren't implemented yet, or why are some so stubbornly against it. This portal is almost completely based on IMDb, and tags are one of the most useful features on that site.
Just a few of the useful features it would bring:
- finding demos containing an effect, record, theme...
- finding musics with a specific style, instrument, musical technique...
- finding images with a certain motive, character, technique, color-sceme...
- finding a specific usage of a tool/utility
- finding a magazine with an article about XY
- etc. etc...
It wouldn't take more than an hour to implement: another textbox on the "add comments" page with the Tags label (separated with commas) -> parsing the field and popping it out on the profile-page (as links, so if I'd click on a tag, I'd be redirected to a search-results page with a list of all those products where the same or similar tag was present).
Of course it wouldn't work right away, populating would certainly take some time. Just as everything else on this site.
Any thoughts? And in case of another instant rejection, I'd definitely love to get a bit more reasonable answer than the usual "I don't think we need it. Oh, and look here's my middle finger too. thxbai"
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
but adding tags can't actually fail to be useful that's the point.
if nobody does anything with them, you are no worse off.
if ONE person does, you are better off than you started.
and so far SEVERAL people with a fair few releases between them have volunteered to tag their own and others stuff.
therefore CSDB is GUARANTEED to be better off already.
on to another negative point please this one has been busted. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
ah, another volunteer that will supervise and clean up the tags!
if you think adding a feature like this does not result in more work for the maintainers and moderators, because all it could possibly do is positive, then you are really more than naive.
"SEVERAL people with a fair few releases between them have volunteered to tag their own and others stuff."
and if you think any of them belongs to these 1% that actually do the bulk of work here, then you are also very naive. |
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STE'86
Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274 |
well if you don't like doing the "work" you can always turn in your mod status!
and on from that happy thought...
exactly WHY would would tags need to be policed?
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
I volunteer to supervise and clean up the tags too.
Next excuse? |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
We are the 99%. Occupy CSDb! :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:well if you don't like doing the "work" you can always turn in your mod status!
if you want a site with tags, make your own! yay! great arguments you got there.
Quote:exactly WHY would would tags need to be policed?
because idiots will be idiots and act like idiots. again: if you think this will only do good and cause no extra work, you are very naive.
Quote:I volunteer to supervise and clean up the tags too.
i could take this kind of comment seriously if it came from a person that spent any amount of time worth mentioning on the database. next. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: Quote:but you often seem to completely forget that the site is actually based on hundreds, if not thousands of people
you are a bit naive there. 99% of the work here is done by about 1% of the csdb users. (you know who you are)
and thats why unless *these* users speak up, there is little chance for tags (or anything else really) turn into something useful. and thats why i am against it - i'd rather spend my time on supporting this handful users that actually does something useful. (one of them already spoke up - not to your consent however)
By "based on hundreds of people", I meant that it is based on their work, the releases those people made. You wouldn't have a database to maintain without them, yet you still act like their presence is for granted.
And for the matter of speaking up, I've got a positive PM from a very active submitter (right from the top10). And it seems that you missed it when the #12 submitter spoke up in favor of the tags. Interestingly, you also skipped commenting the posts where some of us volunteered for filling up some of the releases with tags.
All that doesn't surprise me though, seems like you systematically ignore everything that doesn't suits your way of thinking, and keep bringing up the problems with the idea which we already found solutions for, or we explained why it shouldn't be a problem at all. This selective, ignorant, deliberate blindness is simply insulting and disrespectful. Especially towards those hard working individuals who help this site by popping out actual releases instead of pushing Db data from left to right. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Just as I thought, excuses =) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Add me to the list of lazy useless non-contributors who think tags would be cool, please. |
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
If that 1% are already doing a good job of updating the database just take the existing DB and convert it to tags, then they can continue to do what they're doing with tags instead. All you need is a system similar to C64pixels eg a/ for artist c/ coder m/ musician y/ year etc etc then you've got a shit load of pre-made, pre-approved tags that already make the db a hell of a lot easier to search.
Being able to type all that in in 1 box when submitting would also be a hell of a lot easier than the current submission backwards and forwards shenanigans.
New release t/NEW DEMO c/DANE m/Hubbard a/Jailbird etc etc
I want to see all demos by c/oswald m/hubbard y/1992
The majority of work is for whoever codes it to come up with a system that's internally very complete but makes it as easy as possible for the end user.
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