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2007-04-04 00:23
Trifox
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other platform sid relocate tool ?

hi all,

now i want to move my sid files in memory, to make some space for gfx, what is the EASIEST way to relocate a sid ?
 
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2007-04-04 03:50
Platoon
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this is probally the hardest way .....
rewrite the whole player routine for the new address..
(i atleast did this one or twice back in the old days!)
it seemed like musicians always liked to put their music at $1000 :P
2007-04-04 05:55
Mason

Registered: Dec 2001
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Ofcourse they put it in $1000. The favorite place for the crackers to use for music in the intros and those intros were a good marketing place
2007-04-04 06:41
Scout

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Quote: Ofcourse they put it in $1000. The favorite place for the crackers to use for music in the intros and those intros were a good marketing place

Memoryaddresses between $1000-$1fff (and $9000-$9fff) are not accessible by the VIC.
The perfect spot for musicdata. That's why it's so popular.

To get on-topic again; back in the days we did it by hand.
Finding the memorypointers might be a pain but it's nice excersise :)
2007-04-04 07:01
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
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Trifox, there are tools to relocate some of the players out there, but I don't think there's any "other platform tools" doing it. Which player is it?
Otherwise doing it manually is the best choice. (I hope it's not a lot of tunes...) :)
2007-04-04 07:31
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
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Try Implayers Relocator V3.01; that helped me occasionally. Be sure to read the goof-entry!
2007-04-04 09:11
Trifox
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"!Memoryaddresses between $1000-$1fff (and $9000-$9fff) are not accessible by the VIC.
The perfect spot for musicdata. That's why it's so popular."

too bad, i have a 6k sid tune ;) e.g. 4 sid tunes in one ... ;)

i mean, what is so hard about relocating ? there are some c64 prgs which do that, why isnt there a tool for other platforms ?
2007-04-04 09:41
Scout

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Quote:
i mean, what is so hard about relocating ?


Addresspointers.
2007-04-04 10:12
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
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It's not hard per se, but it's difficult to make a generic program that relocates _any_ tune.
The tool usually needs to be adapted to each player it supports.

You are right in that it is probably easier to implement a relocator on a modern platform though.
I guess nobody needed this.
Use vice if you need. You usually relocate once and that's it.
2007-04-04 10:33
Trifox
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how to relocate something with vice?
2007-04-04 10:56
Scout

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Quote: how to relocate something with vice?

I don't recommend the monitor in Vice; it sucks.

Load the Action Replay cart. binary and use the T, M and I commands.
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