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2012-07-14 21:04
Leticia
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Hard Restart?

Hi, can anyone explain me please what this Hard Restart is all about and why does it seem to be that important? This confuses me.
 
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2012-07-15 13:03
Leticia
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So I don't really have to use this Hard Restart thing when the music and instrument are sounding alright then?
2012-07-15 17:17
Soren

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Leticia: Exactly, but it might require a bit of work concerning ADSR settings of your instruments.
2012-07-15 20:37
Soren

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Still, if you are new to the sid, you just ought to not think about it, there is plenty of other things to learn first.
2012-07-16 20:00
Leticia
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In fact there are many things that I still have to learn, but due to some musical knowledge I'm already able to do some melodies. I play the piano a bit ;)
2012-07-17 09:13
Oswald

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more info here:

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?roomid=14&topicid=27340&show..
2012-07-17 13:00
Frantic

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Yeah.. There are also a bunch of other threads dealing with hardrestart on csdb. Just search for "hardrestart" in the forum search, if you're interested.
2012-07-17 13:06
chatGPZ

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imho this whole hardrestart thing is a bit overrated and blown out of proportion. its just one of the many details that may or may not be useful depending on what you are planning to do. and there are many cases where NO hardrestart is the preferred option (unless you *want* that mechanical stakkato like expression)
2012-07-17 17:24
Frantic

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Traditionally... To have access to hardrestart in the player one is using — or better yet, actually understanding the ADSR bug and how hardrestart works — is what separates the lowlife scums and lamers from the elite and the sages in the world of SID. Hence, using hardrestart is a scene sacrament that must be blown out of proportion if order is to be maintained. I vote for continuation of this ritualistic practice.
2012-07-30 18:00
Leticia
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Just another question..
What music programs do support entering Hard Restart ADSR Values for each Instrument? I want to try out everything a little bit to hear the difference.
2012-07-31 05:47
Oswald

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I cant tell you coz I'm no musician, but if you've listened to a lot of 'old' (pre 90) and 'new' (post 95) sids you would know the difference. newer sids sounds much more cleaner bcoz of HR. Try some of the badder Hubbard tunes and then some 'The Syndrom', and you'lee see (hear)
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