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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Live view of SID composing
3 videos, showing me composing a SID tune!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m1NHDnwjXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4_rWas_dVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEBueDV3WHM
Dreamscapes, the finished version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgk2q_Ud6gc |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 477 |
Quote:Very interesting! But I prefer making music on PC with Renoise and then converting it to the C64 Roland Hermans player and edit the instruments.
are you talking about doing a sketch in renoise and doing the actual tune in your editor, or do you actually "convert" things? (it should be doable after all, by renoise putting out xml data) |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 477 |
before you guys delete the whole internet, i'd like to know how that renoise -> c64-thing works. :) |
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SIDWAVE
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converting will be nice in some cases. but total control and exploit the SID is only possible on C64 editors.
the only command not used in my tune is attack, and volume.
and it has no sync/ringmod etc.
just made to show how a tune comes to life. |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 227 |
I make the tune completely in Renoise and then convert it with a PC prg by Roland Hermans to his C64 player with very basic instruments. The prg recognizes if a track is used more than once. It makes arpeggios of 2 or more notes played at the same time in 1 track and all instruments are put with name in the generated asm file.
Very handy but sometimes some ideas sound good in RNS but not so good on SID so you have to adapt the asm file.
Maybe if you use QuadraSID:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/quadrasid_by_refx
You get better results. Anyone has it for me?
I make all my SIDs now on pc with Notepad to edit and VICE to play. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3075 |
Very interesting way of composing. Never imagined it could be done that way. Actually all that fixing of sounds makes me crazy. I always add parts or loops to the tune and build it step by step while tweaking sounds,.. I was trying to fix sounds on some of my more or less finished tunes but it wasn't very enjoyable task and never gave the results I wanted. especially when the same sound was used accros the tune.. for that I had to add another sound etc.. but well. maybe the problem is in DMC5.0 editor itself.. it isn't a tracker. It's easy to get lost in the tune.... |
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Yogibear
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 227 |
I also find making instruments the hardest part. And yes trackers make composing much more convenient so you
can see what is played at the same time and it's much easier to find length of notes. And as I said if you
compose in Renoise you can also easily make a complete pc tune of it. So for the ones that don't know
if you necessarily want to make music on the C64 you can better use SDI, SID-Wizard or maybe another tracker. |
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